She said "8000 sq feet", so new lawn or not, she's considering a major
expenditure for a substance that will be relatively ineffective.
Another thought: She made no mention of having gotten a soil test. If she
has soil with too much clay, peat moss would only make matters worse.
go and check out a waste exchange programme is one exists in your area. Here
is a local example of polypropylene to cover 900 square metres.
the answers you have got thus far is that it is a daft idea and will not
work. More than that using enough peat moss to cover an 8000ft lot is a shit
load of peat moss and will cost a shit load of money for the moss itself.
Even more than that, peat moss takes time to develop and using it as a grass
starter is a waste of a resource in my opinion. The only possible way you
could use peat moss I can see is to lay long rolls, like laying carpet, of
it across the earth. It will be a hassle to continually lift to check the
growth of your grass however and roll off when the grass starts to come up.
You will not be able to leave the peat moss down as it will simply starve
your grass of light. Result, dead grass. No, forget the peat moss, its a bad
idea because it most likely won't work as you envisage it, will be a hassle
spread any other effective way, will cost too much money that way and is a
waste of a natural resource. Find a free, or cheap, source of material that
you can stake down over your new seedlings. Leave it down until germination
and then lift up to allow the sun in. Its around if you look for it.
You obviously didn't have a question. You had a bad idea and you wanted
other people to agree with it. That's not happening, so maybe you're one of
those people who only recognizes certain sources of knowledge. You know - a
badge, a college degree, but certainly not answers from people who may have
30+ years of gardening experience.
So, I have an idea. Go to Google and do a web search. Copy & paste the exact
line you see below:
"cooperative extension" new york
But, substitute your state for "new york". In the search results, you should
see links to sites that probably will end in .edu. Poke around in those
results, find a phone number, and call your CE service for some advice. They
will most certainly tell you to have soil tests done from various locations
in your yard. And, I'll bet you a year's salary that they will NOT go along
with your massive peat moss debacle.
When I mow my yard I collect the cutting and put the clippings in my garden,
down the isles and around all plants. My garden looks like it has a green
carpet in it. I do this each time I cut grass. It keeps the ground moist
and warm in the early Spring and through out the season. After everything is
harvested at the end of the season I still put clippings on and in the
Spring I deep till it all in. I have had good luck doing this for years and
the soil is a black humus. However, I DO NOT put the clippings on the
garden if I had recently sprayed for weeds, dandelions, etc. I wait a week
or so and after a rain or heavy watering to continue spreading the
clippings. I think it is a waste to always mulch or bag the clippings for
the waste hauler. For one thing it is doesn't cost anything and why waste
money on peat moss? I would only use it for planting trees and shrubs. I
live in Illinois. My 2 cents worth.
The clippings are good, except that he said he uses a few lawn chemicals on
his grass, and at some point afterward, the clippings end up spread around
his vegetables. Since none of the chemicals sold for lawn care have been, or
ever will be proven safe, this is risky.
Your original question was:
"Someone was telling me that they can use a shredder-blower to shred
peat moss and spray a think layer of it all over your lawn after
putting down grass seed, then you water and it helps keep the
moisture in and start the seed so it doesn't dry out."
"What do they call the blower that can do that and what do they
No one seem sable to tell you what the blower is called, nor what they cost,
as no one has actually heard of this process being used to mulch grass seed.
Moreover, no one actually seems to think it will work and/or is worth
trying, myself included. Why do you not go back to the person who told you
this information and quiz them further?
Sounds like you're talking about some variant of hydroseeding/hydromulching.
The smallest, lightest duty unit I've ever seen was about $3-4K, if I recall
correctly. Big ones, self-propelled, I believe are in the $100K+ range.
And chopped straw, sometimes with a tackifier, is typically used.
Sphagnum's a pretty primo product for such a use.
If you really want to go this route, I'd look for a big landscaping company
of the type hired to seed golf courses or estates or highway cuts.
Personally, I've started a lot of lawns over the years with nothing more
than scattering seed by hand over worked up soil, raking and treading it
in, and adding a topping of compost or mulch if I've got it handy. Watering
is the big key to the project, which is why I tend to renovate lawn
in the fall, just before the rains start.
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With new construction and no grass at all, some landscapers have a truck
that blows a green slurry over the intended lawn area. I don't know
what all is in the slurry, but I believe it includes a starter
fertilizer, some fast growing ryegrass seed, a slower growing better
grass seed, and plenty of green dye. The idea is you get an instant
lawn, first consisting of the green dye, replaced by the rye grass,
which in turn is replaced by the better grass. The sprayer they use is
quite large, and I have never looked for nor seen one for sale, and I
would think it would be wasteful for a homeowner to purchase such a
large machine for a single use. If you want this done, contact a
landscaper, but I would think a good landscaper would use the more
traditional method of checking, smoothing, and rolling the soil, sowing
the seed, raking it in, putting some kind of protective covering over
it, and watering frequently until the lawn is established.
Incidentally, installing a sprinkler system before doing this is an
excellent idea, as you can set it to keep the soil moist during germination.
The protective covering is to keep the birds from eating your seed.
When I do a small area, I cover it with the plastic equivalent of
cheesecloth; it lets in the light and water and air, but keeps the birds
at bay. For a larger area, I buy some straw and strew it over the area,
it doesn't protect from the birds as well, but gives generally good
results, and you don't even have to pick it up; the grass will grow
through it, and it will eventually decompose. Note that I said straw,
not hay. Hay is full of seeds and you don't want that unless you are
starting a hayfield.
Mama Bear wrote:
I am a home owner with a bad lawn not a professional. I have tried
using peat moss and it did work quiet well. I put down the peat moss
just spreading it around with a shovel. Then I sprinkled seed and some
fertilizer. Then plonked more peat moss on top.
I kept it watered using a ordinary hose and sprinkler on a timer.
Worked quite well.
I got my peat moss from home depot as well as the grass seed. I live in
New York and I did this last fall round about September time. Grass
came up in about 5 days.
The advantages of peat moss over top soil and other admenments I think
is easy of spreading it around.
As for a blower I have one of these as well. I did not use it to spread
the peat moss around though. The blower I have is a RedMax 8001. It is
a back pack blower. I suppose you could use it to blow stuff around,
but not quite sure how that would help?
Good luck with your lawn.
warmest regards, Mike.
Mama Bear wrote:
And you could have had the same results with less water if you didn't
have to provide enough water to both keep the peat hydrated and have
enough left over for the seeds to germinate. You wasted money on the
peat, and then you wasted money by having to water more.
Unless you mix the peat into the soil, there is zero advantage to using
it. In fact, if you just spread it on top, it's a waste. A waste of
peat. A waste of water. And a waste of effort. The peat has no
nutriative value, and if it's not mixed in the soil, it does nothing to
help the soil at all.
I see two significant advantages to using peat as described -- it reduces
the frequency of waterings that are needed and surrounds the seeds and
provides them with a constant level of humidity. It sounds like a good idea
Question: In 30+ years of gardening, I've have never seen any advice
indicating that peat moss did NOT need to be mixed into soil. Never. Not
once, and this includes gardening veterans like James Crockett, Alan Lacy,
Henry Mitchell, Fred McGourty, Russell Page, Christopher Lloyd, etc. They
were gardening for 30-50 years before I even began. None of them suggest
that it's a good idea to just sprinkle peat moss on top of soil.
What evidence do you have that suddenly makes this a good idea?
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