Someone was telling me that they can use a shredder-blower to shred
peat moss and spray a think layer of it all over your lawn after
putting down grass seed, then you water and it helps keep the
moisture in and start the seed so it doesn't dry out.
What do they call the blower that can do that and what do they
peat moss can be expensive, it certainly is for the stuff you buy for
hanging baskets anyway, and may not be environmentally sustainable if large
amounts are harvested.
As an alternative, I used frost cloth. I prepared the soil, rakes it, threw
on the seed, raked it in to the top soil, watered and staked down some frost
cloth across the top. The cloth kept the direct sun off and moisture in and
reduced the amount of watering I needed to do. I checked it a few times a
day and put the sprinkler on when the soil was starting to dry out. After a
few days the grass started to come through and I pulled the cloth back to
let the sun in. If not frost cloth maybe light sail cloth or old hessian
sacking. It should not be too heavy and cumbersome but not too porous
Peat moss also dries out very quickly when exposed to air. Then, two things
happen: First, it acts like a sponge and sucks moisture out of adjacent
materials, like your soil. This assumes it remains in place, which is
probably won't if it's been pulverized and there's any wind. The only
correct way to use peat moss on a lawn is to work it into the soil, not just
put it on top.
Why do you think anyone knows where you can get a blower shredder that
will do that? If none of us thinks it's a good idea, why would we have
ever shopped for one? You're not getting a straight answer because your
original message implied that you weren't interested in whether the idea
worked, but just on how to carry-out the idea even if it is a dumb idea.
You came here with your mind made up.
As Doug noted, the shredded peat moss is going to very quickly dry-out.
It's either going to just blow away, or it's going to wick-away water
that otherwise could be going to good use. Think about it. Just how
would loose peat moss help do anything useful? It's a horrible waste of
a natural resource that's being depleted fast enough. As gardeners, even
armature gardeners, we should be stewards of the Earth. Wasting peat
moss on some scheme that has no benefit is not a good idea. And using a
power tool of some sort -- possibly even a gas-powered tool -- is even
In an earlier message you said, "I've been told it can work." Well, now
you've been told that it doesn't work more than once. I guess if you're
prone to go off and do things -- along with spending money to buy stuff
to do those things -- without any research just because you've "been
told it can work", this should be more than enough to change your mind.
It's a dumb idea. But if you really still want to go ahead and do it,
then you'll just have to do your own shopping. I know I've got better
things to do than shop for you.
Not only that, but if the lawn were mowed correctly (leaving clippings in
place, mowing as high as possible except for the last cutting before
winter), there will be plenty of organic matter deposited on the lawn. Peat
moss should be saved for garden areas, and used only if the soil is utterly
Nobody else knows where to buy one, either. Imagine trying to blow feathers
onto your lawn, or flour. That's what it would be like to try and blow peat
moss onto the lawn.
The responses became sarcastic when the OP decided she didn't like the
answers, and only wanted to hear "yes", when in fact, the answer is "no". If
you don't have an open mind when you ask questions, then don't ask.
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* Spread grass seed using a drop spreader at the amount per
square foot indicated on the package. Different varieties have
different ratios. Try setting the spreader at half this rate and
apply the seed in two passes at right angles to each other.
* Rake in lightly.
* After seeding apply a thin layer of peat moss over the
entire area. This helps retain moisture and holds the seed to
ensure a quality product.
I'd like to know how I can do something, not how I can't.
Crapping all over anything anyone wants to do, is not helpful. It
looks like usenet is a useless wasteland of frustrated hourly
workers who take out their frustrations by flaming anything that
Thanks a hell of a lot.
This entire time I thought you were going to use something like a
chipper/shredder to launch the peat moss everywhere. I had no idea you were
going to try and use a leaf blower to spread the stuff around.
Please, please, please, get someone to make a video of you using the leaf
For what it's worth, in the spring time, I just buy a few bags of composted
steer manure and spread that around with a rake.
If you want to know how to plant a new lawn, then that's the question you
should ask. You would've gotten plenty of positive and useful feedback. But,
you DID NOT ask that question. This is what I saw in your first post, with
regard to "blowing peat moss on lawn":
"I've been told it can work. But go ahead. What is it, and can it work?"
Are those your words?
I take it that you haven't tried this, either, so your word carries no
more weight than anyone else here. (Actually less, since you haven't
built any credibility yet.)
So why do you think that peat pots partially burried wick water out of
It's because the peat is exposed to the air. Then the peat touching the
ground wicks water away to replace what is being dried out by the air.
Spreading peat on top of the ground will have the same effect. Peat, in
order to retain moisture, cannot be exposed to the air. Peat exposed to
air will dry out, and will then grab any moisuture it can. The peat pot
partially exposed is very much the same as shredded peat laying on the
surface in this regard.
Also, if you shred peat, and let it dry out, it will be very light. So
yes, some of it will blow away.
There are plenty of old wives tales out there. This one makes sense only
if the depth of your thinking goes one level. (Peat wants to hold water,
so it must hold water close to the seeds if I spread it on top of them.)
If one isn't capable of thinking one step further, then it makes sense
to them, and they'll be puzzeled at why they have to water so much more
than the guy who though ahead and didn't spread peat on top of soil.
Not only don't you know anything about peat, you don't know what sarcasm
What do you think our motivation is? Our motivation is to stop someone
from doing something stupid and wasteful based on half-baked ideas.
Peat laying on top of soil will dry out. The only way it will not dry
out is if you water *more* than you would if it wasn't there.
If you really want to use peat to retain moisture, you need to work it
into the soil so it's not exposed to the air. You can't just shred it,
and blow it. Give it some real thought, and you'll see that this is not
a position of ignorance. Thinking the peat laying on top of the soil
does any good is a position of ignorance.
I've since found out that Toro makes shredder blowers for around
Exactly. We have a sprinkler system. Now maybe we don't even need
the peat moss, and we could just turn the sprinklers on a few
times a day to keep the soil moist. The problem last year was
that we didnt get the new sprinkler system installed until the
weather was already warm and the weeds took over this new lot. we
had to battle them. Now we have about 50% grass after the battle
of last year and want to get 100% grass by this year.
That's what I was thinking.
Ask a simple question on usenet and everyone is an expert, even
when they don't know what they're talking about.
it's for shredding leaves for compost, not blowing peat moss
on the lawn. it would not do what you wanted. it would make
holes where the discharge chute is. we have a chipper/shredder
& use a tarp under the discharge chute.
you really should have done your seeding in the fall. grass
grows better when fall seeded. as you found last year, when
you spring seed you get a lot of weeds.
i would seed now with a blend of something fast growing (like
annual rye) & then reseed again in the fall with more
perennial turfgrasses for your area. just don't expect your
lawn to look great for another couple years.
8000 sq.ft. of lawn just sounds like way too much bother, but
that's me... and i have cute llama lawnmowers.
In order for her to do that, she would've had to listen to people who she
calls "experts". But, in an earlier message, she said disdainful things
about "experts". Maybe she should tell us what authorities she DOES trust,
and how she decides who to listen to.
As peat moss dries, it sometimes forms a crust which can be difficult for
seed to penetrate. This is why it's supposed to be mixed into the soil. I
have a question. Have you ever actually handled peat moss that's been broken
down from chunks into a powdery state? I mean....have you touched it with
your hands, especially when it's dry?
I have another question. Two, actually. No...wait. Three.
1) Tell me how long I've been gardening and how many dozens of books I've
read on the subject.
2) How long have you been gardening and how many books you've read on the
3) You said "everyone is an expert". When you asked your original question,
did you want advice from someone who was NOT an expert? If so, why didn't
you ask anyone who knew what they were talking about to please refrain from
Your claims here that you are speaking from authority make you sound like a
midaeval church official who denied that heavy bodies fall as fast as light
ones. You have never tried this, or spoken with anyone who has. Experiment
is a lot more conclusive than theory.
As for wicking, if peat is mixed into soil many pieces of peat undoubtedly
stick out a bit. Yet the peat-soil mix is not dried out by any wicking
effect. It is, in fact, a recommended mix for starting sod where peat is
cheap. Yes, I have handled peat. I have also tossed handfuls of it onto my
garden and seen them in the same spot months later, having failed to notice
your opinion and blow away. (and yes, that's sarcasm.)
"tried this" - I assume you're talking about mechanically launching peat
moss. That's correct - I haven't seen it done. Let me ask you something: If
you see 1000 landscapers create new lawns, and NONE of them "blow" peat moss
onto the surface, does that tell you anything? Let's assume also that 10% of
these people are not private business people, but work for municipalities,
which often have plenty of money for the latest equipment.
Why do you suppose you and I haven't seen this launching idea done with peat
I noticed that the OP has now said that the person who suggested the idea to
her in the first place might not be so reliable. Maybe she'll explain why
I expect blowing on peat moss is not the most cost-effective way to
establish a new lawn in most situations. But the OP did not ask how to
establish a new lawn, she asked where to buy a tool, and in response she got
general advice. This advice was presented as factual but it was not based on
experience, and I did not and do not agree with the advice. I reproduce it
< Peat moss also dries out very quickly when exposed to air. Then, two
< happen: First, it acts like a sponge and sucks moisture out of adjacent
< materials, like your soil. This assumes it remains in place, which is
< probably won't if it's been pulverized and there's any wind. The only
< correct way to use peat moss on a lawn is to work it into the soil, not
< put it on top.
I will also point out that she is not starting a new lawn but trying to fill
in an existing lawn, so comparisons with starting new lawns are not very
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