Lawn; Thinking of starting from scratch

This post was created by someone who obviously knows nothing at all about turf management. Follow his advice at your peril. Anyone who states that " Halty ( healthy ) soils and turf will outcompete weeds" knows nothing about turf management. I suspect the poster has an " agenda" and it has little to do with turf management.

Peter H

I radar in on the "hard ground". Sounds like the whole thing is a torture chamber for plants.

I agree with rototilling. As deep as possible. Rake out any stones and roots. Add a lot of peat-moss. It's a great slow-release fertilizer and moisture retainer. Chemical fertilizers may burn the young plants.

Wouldn't hurt to hit the weeds with Roundup before you rototill. Wait a few hours after you spray before tilling.

Use good quality seed suited to your situation (sunny/shady, wet/dry etc). Use lots of it. Roll lightly to get it level (optional but useful). Cover with straw or other biodegradable mulch. Water regularly.

This IS the best time. Start yesterday, day before that if possible.

Next spring, sharpen your lawnmower blade really well (dull blades can damage tender grass). DON'T use weed or crabgrass killer next spring. It may not kill the new grass, but it will sure slow it down.

Good luck.

Any lawn where inorganic fertilizers and weed and feed products are used is likely sufering from some level of compaction. If a quality compost is used and the home gardenr learns to use soil biology to his benefit his lawn will likey take far less work, look better, and be healthier than any lawn you'll ever grow with your techniques.

Your alzheimers problem is hardly evidence that Tom's PRESENT knowledge is stinko! Even so, it's nice to imagine that touchy advocates of "better gardening through toxicity" require a lot of brain cells to have already vanished as utterly as a clean earth.

-paghat the ratgirl

Your crotch smells like limburger cheese.

Now Steve, you'll be alright...

So long as I stay away from ratgirl-rottencrotch.. ;-P

If I were you I'd keep my nose out of her crotch.

top posting blowhard..? ratgirl..? limburger cheese crotch..? ratgirl-rottencrotch..?

hmmmm.. And I thought small children only played on lawns but weren't actually able to own and care for said lawns..

paul

It may be based on realworld experience but it is wrong none the less. If you don't know what you are talking about you should refrain from posting.

Peter H

And you call this good advise? You no talent putz! there are lots of us who can manage lawns without ANY herbicides!

This is starting to smell like cross posted flame bait, so I treat it as such.

Go buy one of those weed poppers from Ron Popeil, and STFU!

ground ivy, speedwell, nut-sedge, crabgrass etc?

Where does it show how to control insects such as chinch bug, webworm, cutworm, billbug larve or grubs?

Where does it show how to control lawn disease's such as red thread, dollar spot, leaf spot, rust, brown patch etc?

Lastly, do you sell that snake oil with a straight face?

If you read people's posts with any care you would not make such a fool out of yourself. I Deliberately recommended AGAINST chemical fertilizers (suggesting peat-moss instead) and AGAINST using weed or crabgrass killer on the new lawn next spring (suggesting generous use of grass seed instead).

Some people have balanced informed views on gardening. Others are eco-fanatics who really care nothing about any living creatures, only about their egos and agendas.

Why not go to a church or temple of your choice and find a real religion?

"Bishop Don Magic Juan" wrote

No. If that were the case then Roundup would be rendered ineffective if it rained or there was a heavy dew any time within a week after application.

Any type of herbicide (selective or universal) requires a few hours to soak in. It then takes a week for the plant to die. This will happen whether the soil is turned over or not (except of course that turning the soil over increases the damage).

Read the instructions on the bottles. It explains it all.

Maybe it's the rat poison, I love watching those little bastards croak slowly from strychnine or some such sweetness. 8-0