No, it's supported by its' customers, many of which are
hard-working tradesman and building trades company owners,
and stockholders, many of which are undoubtedly mutual
funds, which, without doubt, many Liberals hold as part of
their retirement plan.
So to say HD is supported by "rich Republicans" is pure
Seems to me that you're making the (false) assumption that
gardeners can't be conservative.
How very narrow-minded and bigoted of you. Just like a
says...> Seems to me that you're making the (false) assumption that
That's a peculiar conclusion. It seems like an advisory statement to me.
"This is what I heard. If it bothers you then consider shopping elsewhere"
It didn't preclude the possibility that someone would be conservative.
There's no failure of logic.
Now if you're insinuating that _I'm_ being narrow-minded
and/or bigoted, then your "Pot, Kettle, Black" comment makes
some degree of sense.
My point, however, is that Liberals have a penchant for
calling Conservatives narrow-minded and bigoted (among other
things) and yet Liberals are not only capable of having such
mind-sets, but are actually more prone to it.
Liberals, however, deny (based on moral superiority) that
they can even have such thoughts/motives.
Their actions, however, speak louder than their words.
Why is it peculiar? The OP made a point of stating that Mr.
Banks is Republican and supports Republican politicians, and
therefor gardeners (this IS a gardening forum, is it not?)
should not shop at HD.
It was a statement of fact (albeit incorrect),not an
Statements of fact don't start with a disclaimer about hearing something
second-hand from a friend The reason that your assumption is wrong is that
nowhere did the OP say that if you were a liberal you shouldn't shop at HD.
He/She only pointed out that you should consider the possibility that HD is
a source of RNC funding and act accordingly - and only then if politics
permeates your life. I'm sure that there will be a significant number of
Republicans who don't vote for Bush this year. Some will simply stay home,
others will leave the box for president blank, and still others will vote
for another candidate. The Republican party has deviated away from
reasonable conservative values into the land of NEO-conservatism, AKA,
fascism. Not wanting to support Bush is not proof that your aren't
conservative. In fact, it doesn't look like Nancy Reagan supports Bush and
I sincerely doubt that a true conservative like Barry Goldwater would wipe
his ass with the likes of Bush.
Being one of those mean rich conservatives myself, I'd be more inclined to
shop at HD if I really believed the initial premise that HD supports the
Republican party. However, most big businesses butter both sides of the
bread to help ensure their future regardless of who is in power; big bucks
from HD have probably made it into the hands of the Dems too, it just may be
hard to trace. I'm fairly confident Lowes does this too (no facts, just
presumption on my part).
If one wishes to choose a store based on reasons other than price, quality,
and selection of merchandise at each store (since the box stores are pretty
similar in most aspects), I'd suggest a more positive approach. Reward the
stores that help your community the most, and be very vocal about it so the
store managers know why you're shopping there.
For example, although Wal-Mart has become a China-product outlet mall, the
stores usually really make an effort to improve the communities they're in
(I know, blanket statement that will have plenty of bad examples; but there
are still plenty of parks and playgrounds that wouldn't exist if it weren't
for organized Wal-Mart employees volunteering and putting out a lot of hard
work). I know Lowes has received many non-monetary honorary awards for
their hiring practices. Although Lowes doesn't have an official policy of
hiring the disabled or handicapped, it seems they're far more likely than
most businesses to hire those people who are often discriminated against
elsewhere. I like that, so I lean toward shopping at Lowes, because I think
they're doing the right thing by helping those who have a hard time getting
hired anywhere. Lowes managers have said it's strictly good business on
their part (less employee turnover saves bundles on training losses, happier
stores bring return customers, etc.), but I say good on 'em for a history of
good hiring moves and being decent human beings. Plus, unlike other
companies that hire the disabled but then keep them hidden from the
customers like they're hiding a disease, Lowes just mixes the disabled in
with everyone else and doesn't try to hide them--they're just regular
employees like everyone else. To some people with mental disabilities the
whole concept of being treated the same as everyone else, being considered
just an average American by others, can often seem beyond their reach; but
Lowes has repeatedly proven it's not. (Search for the DC Melwood clinic
article about Lowes if you doubt my words).
So from this crusty, mean-spirited, rich, grouchy, middle-aged male
capitalist pig (never wore Birkenstocks in my life, probably never will;
only hug a tree when I'm climbing into my deer stand; go ahead and
stereotype me as you will), thank you Lowes and Wal-Marts of the world for
trying to do the right thing while still making a buck and surviving the
Now there's an oxymoronic statement for you!!
Personally, I don't see how anyone could object to this thread. OT or not,
it's the best entertainment I've had in weeks! Didja ever notice how at the
firt sign of a political statement or difference of opinion, folks seem to
lose all ability at rational thought? But then politics tends to bring out
the idiot in us all. How else can we explain away the last 4 years?
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:27:13 GMT, "Pam - gardengal"
Heh. How about Home Depot as the incarnation of the Evil American
Imperialist Empire, coming to Canada to outcompete local hardware
companies, forcing the big boxization of several home grown chains
like Reno Depot, Revvie, and ye old Canadian Tire Corp.? <grin>
It's not just about Republicans and Democrats, dontcha know.
Shirley Hicks, in Toronto
I liked Revy and Lansing, too. I feel worse about White Rose. HD
isn't Can Tire's problem though, I've worked for Can Tire and boy, do
they have inventory problems!
We've got our own evil imperialists, too. Remember Cruikshanks -- the
wonderful folks who sold rare and premium bulbs on Mt. Pleasant?
Besides, I only buy plants from Walmart and HD when they're marked for
clearance. It's the thriftyness of customers that actually kills
retail stores in Canada. Why am I so cheap? Because I am ... :)
On 28 Jul 2004 22:25:37 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (Pen) wrote:
Note: I was being flip in my original post.
I don't. Their stock was pretty middle-of-the-road, they were all over
the map as to retail direction, and their prices were high for what
they were selling. I've seen better from the independents at their
Really? Pray tell.... (one of the co-workers is moving over to their
flyer production department)
Yeah, I do. Got some nice stock from them. They were pricey - had
things that no one else had.
Well, (eyes dancing) if you're _really_ cheap, you start your own
plants from seed, and do most of your gardening with pass-alongs, and
bits tossed over the fence from your neighbours. Oh, and pick nice
I have a weakness for Richter's. Plant World up on Eglington is
_extremely_ dangerous to my wallet as they have luscious lovely,
relatively rare stock (not to mention gorgeous pots, benches, and
other garden frippery) For any canucks reading, www.icangarden.com has
links to all those fine independent Canadian bulb and regionally
specialized plant stock providers. Gardens North in Ottawa was
seriously tempting too for many years.
I can explain it easily; Bush was not elected, he was appointed by his father's
buddies. Cut, dry, pack it up.
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