That's not completely true. At a local golf course where they cleared some
woods, all of the stumps were taken out with an excavator and placed in a
huge pile. Then some special piece of machinery was brought in that looked
like a 10 foot diameter cylinder, maybe 8-10 feet high. Inside the cylinder
was a giant flail spinning at a high speed. The giant stumps were dropped in
and what came out of this machine was a nice steady stream of rich looking
soil. I think it was less than 30 seconds to reduce a stump of a 18"
diameter tree to 'nothing'.
Wow- never seen that particular sort of device before. Sounds like a Tim
Taylor special. Guess things have progressed a little since I got an inside
job. Ordinary stump grinders and towed chippers for liftable chunks were all
I ever got to see close up, and both of those weren't that hard to jam.
Drum grinders. Come in big and bigger sizes. They are what are used for
logging operations, and municipal yard waste recycling.
Amazing what you can find on the 'net, if you do a thorough search for
I read through the thread and don't really see any suggestions that
you can use except for possibly burning. My approach would be a
comgination of some of them. Pressure washer to get as much dirt as
possible off, chain saw to cut them into chunks you can move.
No, cutting up the dirty root balls will not destroy your saw. It
will destroy your chain, bar, drive sprocket and possibly the clutch.
These are easily replaceable and not that expensive. Even just
pitching the saw away at the end of the job will be cheaper than any
other method (except burning) You will also be sharpening the chain
several times while working.
This is one of those jobs that will cost money (unless you can burn
them in place). Some jobs just can't be done 'on the cheap'.
There's another approach which is easy, inexpensive, and won't damage
anything, but it does take a lot of time: rotting it out.
Wood will decompose into soil given four additional ingredients: air,
water, nitrogen, and bacteria.
Air: Expose as much of the stump as possible. Drill holes into it to
let air in.
Water: Water it frequently; try to keep it moist. If you can, rig up
a drip to keep it constantly moist. If possible, keep it out of the
sun so it won't dry out as quickly.
Nitrogen: Apply a high nitrogen fertilizer
Bacteria: Get some rotten leaves or soil (the stuff you scoop out of
your gutters is good), and spread it over the stump.
If you see mushrooms growing on and around the stump, and see grubs
burrowing in it, then you are doing it right. Fungi, insects, and
bacteria will all work to convert the wood back to soil.
If you keep a compost pile, start a new one on top of the stump.
It may take a year or more.
In article firstname.lastname@example.org says...
As has been discussed before, even talking with your insurance agent will
require him to register your conversation in a database used to raise
your premium. If you see your insurance agent walking down a street,
divert your eyes, walk in a different direction, and don't let him see
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 01:57:15 -0500, someone wrote:
I think that's crap in a case like this. This is mainly a worry for
people who have a history of numerous petty claims, like they are
"trying to get their money's worth" out of their insurance. Naturally
there will be some folks who claim its not their fault, they are not
like that, its just circumstances, and maybe some are right, but they
fit the pattern.
But THIS TIME there was a frickin' HURRICANE. Everybody's premiums in
the whole area are likely to be effected by such conditions, while
OTOH nobody in the area would not stand out merely for making an
In the age of computers, that insurance companies track each covered
premises, is fearful news only to superstitious homeowners. We
operate four commerial properties and it is routine that RFPs for
renewal quotes include a 3 year "loss run" (history) for each
location. A zero loss report or inquiry is just that, no loss. Not a
big deal. "Required to register" makes thing sound much more sinister
than they are. There is a 'file' on each property - so what - no
But as OP clarified, as the trees did not hit his house, they are
'merely' landscaping and not covered.
Nope. Get a CLUE.
"C.L.U.E. reports indicate losses by type. Consumers should be aware that
contacting their company or their agent to discuss an actual loss might be
considered reporting a claim, even if the company does not end up making a
claim payment. This is because when a loss occurs, the policy requires the
company to take specific actions within specified time frames. Consumers
should be specific as to whether they are filing a claim or only making an
"Many home insurers count inquiry calls -- calls in which homeowners simply
ask informally whether their policy will cover certain damages and are told
that it won't -- as unpaid losses."
In theory this sounds like a good idea, but it's not as simple as it might
sound. The larger of the two stumps--even with all of the tree trunk cut
off--is roughly a cube 6' on each side. The hole next to the stump is the
same diameter but only about 1 foot deep. (I'm guessing that since the tree
went down when the soil was saturated with water there was something akin to
a small mudslide that filled in the hole.) Given that this soil is mostly
clay, I don't see anyway short of using a backhoe digging a hole of that
I have come to the conclusion that no method of removal will be easy (or
Some folks have mentioned using homeowner's insurance to cover the cost of
removal. We're already contacted our insurance company. Since almost every
home in this area has some damage, we figure whether we make a claim or not
our rates are going to be affected. Unfortunately, insurance only covers
trees that have fallen on the house, and so since these trees did not hit
the house, that is not covered.
Bad idea. Even if the main colony of termites doesn't attack his
house from where they are, the next swarm could put 10 colonies along
his stem wall, three inside and five at his neighbor's house. The
entire neighborhood will be panicked when they see termite alates
(queens and kings) on their windowsills both inside (some will get
lucky and fly in) and outside... and guess who they're going to blame
Dig up the root balls. Get what you can of the roots. Chop them up
with an axe (being sure not to hit any pvc pipe underground) and throw
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