Gardening Green (How to become an Organic Genius!)

Hey guys hope all is well:) Anyways my friend made this page about becoming an Organinc gardener. I saw it and now i'm a green gardener and proud of it! Anyways I recommend it and I'm now pretty stoked to grow organic items in my new greenhouse not to metion make my own compost!

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has a whole section and it's really helpfull.

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garden guy
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Funny, never seen you here offering to help with questions. You do know how to garden, right? What are you growing and where? What tomato would you recommend starting now, in southern Utah? What would eat small holes in Swiss chard, chilies, and beans on Vancover Island, BC, CAN, but not touch cabbage, or sunflowers? What sweet peppers would you recommend growing in Ohio, that are prolific, and good for stuffing with cheese, or grilling with kabobs? Come on, impress us.

Our answers are free, and there is no advertising pressure. You take major plastic?

If you ever want to show us what you know, you know where to find us. Once we become impressed with your knowledge, who knows, we may even visit your web site, once we're impressed.

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Billy

No not green, pink. As Rene Descartes said "I'm pink therfore I'm spam".

David

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David Hare-Scott

You silly sot. That's I drink, therefore I am ;O)

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Billy

Hello Billy well then I'll tell you all about myself. I live in a small town in East South Dakota called Mt.Vernon. Second of all I didn't make the page my friend in Colorado did. To tell you the truth I've never done organic gardening until this year. And i have no idea what tomatoe to plant in Utah because I've never lived there in a dry climate. But I would recommend the celebrity tomatoes because i planted a whole bunch of them last year and made ketchup and about 10 jars of it. I couldn't really tell you that much about other than the seed needs to go in rich soil and have plenty of water and sunlight. I just gotta ask you though what's with the whole Benito Mussolini??? Anyways I'll try to get up pictures of the old tomato garden. Thanks Billy.

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garden guy

(Recycled, with apologies):

Rene Descartes sitting in a bar. Barkeep: "another one sir?" Descartes: "I think not."

Poof! He disappears.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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Gary Woods

And how does this differ from other tomatoes?

If you have lots of money, rich soil, warm temps, lots of sunlight, and available water, you can easily grow a garden. When you lack any of these elements, however, you require a gardener. A gardener to explain what garden soil is, and how to achieve it cheaply. A gardener to give you the options for dealing with to much, and too little heat. A gardener to suggest plants that would produce a crop with the available sunlight, be it 12 hours of full sun or 6 hours of mottled sun. A gardener to suggest plants with low water requirements like garlic or Opuntia. Of course this wouldn't be a gardener with just knowledge from classroom gardening, but from hands on experience, i.e. experience from gardening in Toronto, Calgary, Seattle, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Austin, St. Louis, Atlanta, Charleston, Trenton, to Halifax. And then when you have your plants growing like crazy, suddenly they are attacked by insects that you've never heard of before. What to do?

The other benefit here is that this is a labor of love, gardeners helping gardeners. Thus we needn't worry about profit margin.

The Bambino? Modern fascism was created by Mussolini (you can look it up, if you like). President Isenhower explained it once It would only take two and a half minutes to listen to his warning.

Then you might notice that half of our war zone military are private contractors. Spying is being done on Americans by private companies. Voter roles are being purged of legitimate voters by private companies. Private companies are feeding, and housing OUR military (on no bid contracts, I might mention [don't touch the pipes in the showers]). Public mineral rights are sold cheaply to private companies. Environmental and safety requirements are waived by the government for private companies. Our government meets behind closed doors with the directors of private companies. Private companies donate money to the campaigns of OUR national leaders. The USDA is more interested in selling agricultural products than it is in protecting public health, and the FDA is too over taxed, under funded, and has insufficient authority to protect the public health from the likes of Tyson (wants to irradiate the crap on chickens so you won't get sick, but the crap will still be there), Monsanto (selling dangerous GMOs [yeah, I know, redundant], Cargill [thanks for the HFCS, and dirty meat], et al.

Anyway, that's the short answer.

We ALL could do that. What would be the point, or do you have a problem that you would like to exhibit? Otherwise, just pitch in and help answer some questions from gardeners.

By the way, how tall was your largest parsnip? I swear that mine is topping 6' now. Gotta get a picture. The sunflower is around 7', and the potatoes are pushing 5' easy.

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Billy

what tomatoe to plant in Utah because I've never lived there in a dry climate. But I would recommend the celebrity tomatoes

I jus planted a half a dozen slicer varieties, and the Celebrities are the only ones who seem to be doing badly. They wilt every single day and need lots of extra attention. That's probably why they are called Celebrity.

seed needs to go in rich soil and have plenty of water and sunlight.

Wow, that's great advice! Thanks! I'll try that!

--S.

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Suzanne D.

LOL ;O)

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Billy

Who would have thunk it was so easy, huh?

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Billy

Growing stuff is a worthy challenge and it keeps on changing similar to life. Dealing with the change the real challenge perhaps. I favor yielding but can lapse into heavy weeding on occasion just as I know tis better to weed early than to let weeds grow strong.

Above URL stuff from my childhood maybe yours too. Be sure too look at the index on a rainy day.

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Bill who putters

Well sorry that your celebrity's are going bad but I live in a humid climate and I water them everyday, but about my potatoes they have holes in them from pesty insects. I need help. Do I put that insect dust on them??

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garden guy

Colorado bean guys just a squish . Rotenone organic but...

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Actually that insect dust is profound ignorance. Sevin malathion yada yada.

You do need help and I'd suggest going to a library or neighbors that have been in the garden for awhile.

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Bill who putters

Mussolini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUghttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html>> Hello Billy well then I'll tell you all about myself. I live in a

After some fussing about I eventually got to your "friend's" page, your link doesn't get there.

I found a fair bit of waffle about why one should go organic followed by a list of products that I should buy and very little information about growing anything at all.

How is this helpful?

David

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David Hare-Scott

Could you describe the insect, or post a picture of it, and the damage on the web? Is this leaf damage, or in the tuber? What is the extent of the damage 5%, 90%, worse?

Where do you live? What kind of soil do you have, how are the potatoes watered, and how wet is the ground around the potatoes?

I wouldn't advise the use of any insecticide, at least until the problem is identified. Even then there are environmental concerns to be considered. Many insecticides affect humans (organophosphates), pollinating insects, soil ecology, and water quality. Since you are trying to be an organic gardener, I suggest that we look at "Integrated Pest Management", once the problem is defined.

Usually planning ahead will avoid most problems that might arise, and sometimes, through no fault of our own, part of our crop is lost. We call it tuition.

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Billy

Apparently I missed the part about east South Dakota, but the rest of the query stands.

Could you describe the insect, or post a picture of it, and the damage on the web? Is this leaf damage, or in the tuber? What is the extent of the damage 5%, 90%, worse?

Where do you live? What kind of soil do you have, how are the potatoes watered, and how wet is the ground around the potatoes?

I wouldn't advise the use of any insecticide, at least until the problem is identified. Even then there are environmental concerns to be considered. Many insecticides affect humans (organophosphates), pollinating insects, soil ecology, and water quality. Since you are trying to be an organic gardener, I suggest that we look at "Integrated Pest Management", once the problem is defined.

Usually planning ahead will avoid most problems that might arise, and sometimes, through no fault of our own, part of our crop is lost. We call it tuition;O)

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Billy

Oh, I'm sure the perpetrator believes the click-through fees AWA the participation with Amazon and those ebook "publishers" will be helpful to his bank account! That strikes me as one of those sites that offer, "Get your own web page free! It's easy! We'll do all the work!" sites. I think we're witnessing another victim/dupe of a "get rich on the WWW" e-book! Ah, well; ...a fool and his money....

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balvenieman

Hiding in a laizzez-faire Louisiana swamp behind the tar balls, if he's got any sense at all.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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Gary Woods

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