"Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as
a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be
bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the
new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a
NATIONAL constitution." --James Madison, Federalist No. 39
I don't see how in the bloody bleep 3 (the allowed number) palnts in one;s
yard can have ANYTHING to do with "interstate commerce".
It seems to be that they're just playing fast and loose with the
Constitution, period. Seems to be all the rage recently =>:-p
Other thing is, the Repuiblicans used to (and still do) carry on a lot
about "states rights" and "smaller gov.t" - but they're nothing more than
liars, because they *only* are for that when it suits their egotisticl
hypermoralistic agenda. They don't give a crap about rights at all.
What comes next? After all, some religious sects regard *coffee* as a
"mind altering substance". So are we going to outlaw coffee because 500
fundies believe it's "sinful" or "not sacred"?
Where does it end?
The pot could have been bought from a licenesed business out of state. Could
Of course one imagines that it went something like this...
"Hey, let's set up a federation of sovreign states based on an idea of
liberty and have the oversight assembly in charge of controlling every
single little thing that happens at an individual level in those sovreign
Or maybe it was
"Hey, let's set up a federation of sovreign states and have an oversight
assembly whose job is to make sure that interactions between those states
are regular and they don't try to fuck with each other."
See also "well regulated".
It isn't really hard.
They all are
The Republicans are not the "evil tools of the religious right" that the
Democrats would have you believe.
None of them do.
The current "enlightened" political division is libertarian/statist. This
nicely lumps the majority of politicians and politics over to one side and
you get to see how it's all just piddling about what color boots they'll be
I like how you use "regard" as if it actually weren't.
The religion thing is a red herring. You do yourself a great service if you
But "could have been" isn't the basis for much - more than that is
(supposedly) required to obtain a search warrant.
Additionally, the interstate sale and teransport of hemp seed and poppy
seed (and I mean Papaver somniferum) is *already permitted*. Hemp seeds
are found in some seed mixes labelled as a type of "canary treat and song
enhancer" - it "mellows" canaries (especially American Singer canaries)
whose song is what's called "driving" - extrememly loud, to the point of
being harsh, due to aggression (since that is how songbirds compete).
Now, the seeds *are* irradiated, but we all know about chaos theory - IOW,
what if one seed was at the bottom of a small heap. If you have old seed
and throw it into the yard, and opne hemp seed sjust happens to be viable,
grow, and self-pollinate (which I assume to be possible, since I've not
read ro heard that there are separate male and female plants, as there are,
for example, with Holly shrubs, which is why your female plants won;t set
seed if amale plant is not nearby). The point is, the seed was purchased
*legally*. Granted, this is a bit unlikely, but it's still possible. IN
any event, just let the gov.t just *try* to prove that is not what
happened, if someone has only a very few plants.
As for poppy seeds, well, let's just say that there is an old German sayign
that when the kids are getting wild, give them some poppyseed strudel, the
reason being, that the poppy seeds will 'make them calmer'. That's because
the poppy seeds used on food contain opioids. Also, they are a popular
garden flower, because of the delicate, light silvery-green foliage, and
the beautiful flowers - red is dominant but all sorts of color mutations
can occur. The grew pretty much wild in Vancouver, in fact, because the
seeds were spread by various means (birds and other animals, heavy wind,
falling into the creases of people's clothing, and so on). Some might be
irradiated, but if you buy a jar of poppy seeds, at least he imported ones
are viable. Very viable - throw out a handfull and they'll grow like
weeds, with just a little water. ((BTW, poppy plants of all types, even
California poppy, which isn't even a Papaver spp. but rather, if I remember
correctly, an Escholtzia spp.)) tend to die if you try to transplant them,
something to remember if you like the look of poppies in the garden.))
So, as I see it at least, the claim of "interstate commerce" of seeds, when
it's being applied across the board and even in opposition to state laws
allowing the use of medical marijuana, is nothing but smoke and mirrors
intended to cover up the fact that there are a lot of people who yell a lot
about "morals" but don't really have a clue.
Remembering, of course, thet we are talking about something given to people
who are deathly ill. I suppose someone could claim "placebo effect", but
that claim is utterly meaningless unless studies are doen to *prove* that a
placebo (i.e. pot substitute) gives the same relief as does pot. Of
course, I wouldn't want to tbe the researcher on the receiving end of the
uproar that'd result from using deathly ill people in such a way.
IOW, as usual, the situation is self-contradictory, but nobody wants to
take a close look at the ramifications, because most people just want the
simplest answer possible - and the simplest answer is to simply ban, not
only pot, but also, food-related poppyseed and hemp seed in any and all
forms and uses. IOW, no more poppyseed kaiser rolls foro anybody. ANd
then what's next? Morning Glory seeds, for one, but there are more garden-
flower seeds that can, if ingested, produce a hallucinatory effect.
Note that thre is no ban on things that can KILL you, such as, Castor Bean
plants and seeds, certain spices, Acetominophen, and so on. The thing that
people scream about is anything that might give you a buzz.
What isn't really hard? THe origin of interstate commerce regulations?
It's not even a matter of being "not hard" - it's a no-brainer.
What I don't see is the use of federal interstate commerce regulations to
harass exceedingly ill, and even dying, people over 3 or 5 pot plants to be
used under a physician's care and instructions, when their state's laws
permit that type of use. It simply doesn't make sense.
It esp. deosn't make sense given that it's the Republicans pushing for this
harassment, and the Republican party blows a lot of hot air about
"supproting state's rights".
It's hypocrisy. And I remain unconvinced that it's entirely legal to use
the interstate commerce regulations in the manner under discussion.
It's got nothing to do with the Democrats, it's got to do with what i see
going on all around me, across the nation. I can't cite every thing I've
read or heard, including commentaries by Conservatives on many matters, so
I'll resort to shorthand and keep it short'n'simple: as I see it, there is
a continuing, if subtle, erosion of individual rights and freedoms.
Granted, more responsibility is needed, but what's being done is not the
way to acheive that. You don't eliminate a problem by taking away various
rights of all people. Injustice does *not* create justice.
And as I see it, hounding cancer patients because they have 3 or so pot
plants is *NOT* just. I also do not think it is moral, because it causes
them increased suffering on top of what they're already going through.
And if you want to wear sandals, too bad, you just get flattened by the
I used the word because I don't recall that coffee's primary action is on
the brain. I thought it acts upon the endocrine ssytem, increasing
adrenalin and converting the glycogen stored in the liver back into
glucose. IOW, not much different from riding a roller coaster, or doing
anything else that raises the adrenalin level. IOW a physiological effect
whose side effect is to stimulate the brain. Check me on that, but I think
that's the case with coffee.
By this reasonong, one could claim that food is "mind altering" because of
post-prandial narcosis (i.e., getting sleepy after eating). Especially
turkey and other foods (including warm milk) that conatin high levels of,
what is it, Tyrosine I think, which causes serotonin levels to rise, which
in turn makes people feel mellow and often sleepy.
Therefore, I said "regard", as in, view, opine, consider.
I don't entirely agree on either point. All you have to do is listen to
the politicians/lawmakers/commentators themselves. The increase of
religious influences (and that does not include Buddhist, Islamic, Taoist,
Animist, or Shintoist religions) upon legal matters is a matter of public
record. As regards the question of medical marijuana, yes, I do think that
overly-moralistic influences are indeed playing a part, remembering that
"moral" and "moralistic" have very different, even opposing, meanings.
Spirituality is not the same thing as religion, as Church, and I do hold to
the principle of Separation of Church and State and find it reprehensible
whenever one disguises itself as the other ((as history shows, that is only
done to take rights and responsibilities away from people)). If people are
going to claim that the US is a *spiritual* nation, and if people are going
to strive towards that end, then let them profess a dedication to religious
and spiritual plurality within the boundaries of civil, Constitutional law.
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