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[Michael Bulatovich]

[Michael Bulatovich]

Should have titled it, "Take that! Building codes....."

[Troppo]

"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

A few places around tropical Australia that look like that, except the glass is replaced by louvre panels - with insect screens. Would probably need overhangs or window hoods as well. Glenn Murcutt has done several.

These also present a problem where building codes and so-called 'energy efficiency' criteria are concerned, but we also have the option of "peer review" eg if enough experts say its ok - then its ok :-)

Some of us are looking at developing a prefabricated modular system based on cold-formed steel portal frames - maybe it could turn out to be "Mies and Glenn" for the rest of us :-)

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Every time i look at that glass house in the large owned landscape I have several related thoughts. First, form the ordinary person perspective, you have to have the bucks to own enough land around that no one is going to obscure your view or enjoy your strip show.

and

Who cleans the glass of bug suicides? Where are those thingies on the glass to prevent birds from joining the suicide mission? Reminds me of open houses where the real estate agents have removed all the screens in summer to provide a false idea of the reality of the house

[Michael Bulatovich]

The criticisms of glass houses has been well made, and I share them, however it's not the glass (at all) that I like so much about Mies. It's the

*ORDER*.

[Michael Bulatovich]

As much as I like Murcutt, these only look alike from a great distance. Have you seen Mies up close? (IOW, where are you?) Also, in broad strokes, there's a levity in Murcutt that's entirely missing in Mies, unless you think the Seagram's mullion was supposed to be funny.

[Jude]

It's absolute stupid.

[Troppo]

"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

I was joking sort of, but also wondering about the framing, how easy it would be to fabricate. Haven't seen Mies up close. The only one of the recent greats I've seen much of is Corbusier. All that lovely off-form concrete turning black and green :-)

Tropical Australia. Met Murcutt when I was teaching architecture at PNG University of Technology - he used to come over every so often to do sessions in the design studio.

Here the glass panels would not only attract insects, but would end up almost opaque - gunk from cane toads hurling themselves at it :-)

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I find the order part of what I dislike, because it is soboringly simplistic, doesn't reflect the flow of human activitity and relates to a life I would rathre not have.

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Here in the natural for real swamp of DC, we have many sorts of creatures and people hurling themselves at anything in their way. :)

[Michael Bulatovich]

I wouldn't live in it either, but know Mies looks *simple*, but isn't. Have you ever tried to design to a module?

BTW, he didn't do a lot of houses for a reason... and it wasn't the fees.

[Michael Bulatovich]

If you're teaching then I don't have to tell you that Mies is almost facistically about control. We have a cluster of Seagram's clones here in TO, and they have aged very well compared to all the other towers. They are a bunch older than the rest of the modern ones, but the idea behind them continues to resonate, though I don't know how many architectural fashions. They're very sophisticated.

Must be paradise. Lat. and long.?

C'mon. All you need is a small crew of window cleaners until the photographer shows up!

[Troppo]

"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Er - well - sometimes :-)

19.19 S, 146.68 E

A torch and spear gun is a popular method. I prefer a sledge-hammer ...

[Kris Krieger]

"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

I like thwe openness but would prefer some more, what's the term, "massing"?, or maybe "level changes"? The basic glass box is not something that would hold my interest for very long - I'd get bored with it too fast.

[Kris Krieger]

Troppo wrote in news:Xns99B61FC62A194troppo19notsohotmail@210.8.230.25:

Oooof, that yellow text on the black background is harsh...

OTOH, Australian links of interest, my sister lives in Sydney and I was interested in the continent-nation long before it became "sheek" in the US ;)

[Kris Krieger]

"Michael Bulatovich" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

One of my top favorites:

[Troppo]

Kris Krieger wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Sorry about that - time for a style upgrade maybe? I did it like that years ago, so the links could be seen clearly on crappy screens. Some of the material has been on the net since about 1992. Black background = all guns off = lower radiation on a CRT.

[Kris Krieger]

Troppo wrote in news:Xns99B64D78B3232troppo19notsohotmail@210.8.230.25:

True, but is it currently relevant? Not being rude, just suggesting something a bit less jarring.

[Troppo]

Kris Krieger wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Apparently we now have a general obligation here to design web pages that do not unecessarily discriminate against the vision-impaired. Some of the charts and graphs on my employer's website have been modified to accord with this - eg line-art instead of colours, good contrast etc. Begs the question as to the extent that the impairment is being caused by looking at all this stuff in the first place :-)

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Actually, yes. Design a functional living space 10x10 feet with 7'6 ceilings.