Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak in
NYC metro area? Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
LF and which by BF? Does the length of the board in general affect LF
or BF price?
A hardwood dealer is probably selling random with boards by the board foot.
Home centers sell specific sized and trimmed lumber and use the lineal foot
method because most of the shoppers and almost all of the employees have no
idea what a board foot is, let alone be able to calculate how much is in a
6" wide board.
As for the price of your wood, in the NYC metro area it is probably 50% to
100% higher than it should be. Right now I can buy 8/4 for 4.85 a bd. ft.
Quarter sawn 7.50 There will be some waste in that though as it is priced
rough cut, random width.
The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had White Oak for
about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..
BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The exception
are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are typically
sold in sq. ft.
Am I the only one who thinks this place's prices are a little
At the bottom it says all prices are "per linear board foot". Doesn't
it have to be one or the other?
If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to about
12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and 8/4
for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
Silersbrew, been lurking for a while and ready to contribute.
Supprisingly enough it is a local lumber yard, They are Amish owned and
operated. Located north of Fort Wayne IN. Would have to check to see about
Birch. They get there rough cut in and work the wood into boards and
trim in their mill room. Then sell the product at high prices to make their
profit. They sell the rough cut material at basically their cost.
Although I have wondered if I should keep this source a secret lol.
You might want to look at Hartzell Lumber
http://www.hartzellwoodstock.bigstep.com/ . White birch (select) is
under $2 a foot with #1 and #2 even less. Quality is excellent. Even
with shipping you may well come out ahead.
Advantage Lumber, Rob Pelc place, shipped wood from N.Y. to southern
Calif and the price including S&H was half what the local hardwood
store charges. Now he has minimum amount that excludes small buys.
Not sure on the grading as I am not real familiar with the grading process.
I know it is Kiln dried. Have been using it for about 8 years with very
little problems. Have never had any problem with it twisting, warping or
Now what exactly do you mean by "tree-run" been woodworking for years, but
not up to date with all terminology
I believe that they meant "log-run" not tree-run :-) Log Run is all
lumber sawn from the log. All grades inclusive. Every log will have
some lower grade lumber, even the best of them. It is usually cheaper
if you take all of the sawn lumber from any one log, rather than just
buying the best of the lot.
No, I meant "tree", not "log". The log came from the tree... :)
Guess that's a local idiom depending on who/where one is...around the
small sawmills in VA and TN I was near, "tree run" was their term and I
picked it up from them. (Being a W KS wheat farmer as a kid, it was all
new to me, so whatever I heard there was what I heard first, so as usual
that's what I've retained.)
In those mills (and this was quite some time ago before lumber prices
were nearly so high --I recall one really nice batch of red oak was
$0.10/bd-ft! -- and the premium for graded lumber not so significant)
they simply stacked everything w/ the exception of culling really poor
slabs and ran it through the kiln, then stacked it. For local sale it
was then stacked either bundled or not, the unbundled obviously for the
typical individual purchaser. You could, on occasion still find boards
from the same tree together, but by the time it had been handled so much
it was mixed up enough that wasn't always easy w/o a lot of sorting and
It was another story for the truly exceptional walnut log say, where it
was cut and kept together in its entirety -- but that was the rare
exception, not the rule.
I guess, if there is a difference these two scenarios <might> be it...in
one case, it is "log run" because the boards/slabs all did come from the
same log (and would usually even be kept stacked in order).
In the other case, it's whatever they cut in a particular mill run and
no real attempt to maintain the individual boards together through the
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