The local super-duper hardware store, the one with the pass-through
door to the lumber yard next door, has crossed the line. I am often
disturbed by business practices that are on the sketchy side of the
line. Placing candy at kids' eye level is bad enough, but when they
place a large assortment of Festool toys right by the cash register in
a hardware store...well, that's just wrong.
People have mortgages and families and they should know better than to
tempt people that way. On the other hand Festool makes stuff that
feels good in the hand and is just pretty! Am I worth it...? Hmmmm.
Anyone looking for a second-hand mortgage and family with hardly any
miles on them? ;)
Not true! Microsoft welcomes anyone to come up with an operating system and
market it. Go ahead, here is your chance to become a billionaire! Gates is
one hell of a marketing man, more of a salesman that a computer geek. You
don't need to use Microsoft products!
Are you SERIOUS????
They purposely make sure that Caldera/DR-DOS 6 could not be used with
their software. If you didn't have Windows 3.1, MS Word would not work.
Be (BeOS) failed when they tried to give away the OS for free because of
threats by Microsoft against PC vendors who considered it.
There was netscape, Opera, and the browser wars. Sun's java versus
MS's. The MS "extensions" to Kerberos. WordPerfect, Media players,
firewalls, java vs. C#, Microsoft vs. Japan, Microsoft vs. Europe, and
the Open Office XML. The battle goes on.
And there is a class action lawsuit for people who were forced to pay
for Windows when they had no intention of buying/using it.
Only recently could you get a discount by buying a Dell with Linux.
Remember, the DOJ CONVICTED them of illegal practices.
They've been good recently, because of their conviction, but then they
bring up the Linux patents.
Microsoft is a monster I will agree. They have gotten so large, and so
common place that we are pretty much stuck with them.
As far as threatening computer manufacturers about using a different OS. I
am sure they could, but them Microsoft just would not sell Windows to them.
Nothing illegal about that! Crappy, but not illegal. I am not saying
Microsoft is a saint, but not all they do is illegal. They have a
stranglehold on the OS market, and know it. No one has any possibility of
knocking M$ of their mountain!
Used to write VMS device drivers and up. Haven't for about 7
years. But, it still is a bullet proof OS and you can still buy
it today. It was a sad day in May this year when the plug was
pulled on the Alpha servers.
Greg O wrote:
> Microsoft is a monster I will agree. They have gotten so large, and so
> common place that we are pretty much stuck with them.
There was a time when General Motors had almost 60% of the US
market(Late 50s-Early 60s).
Their arrogance and 50 years seemed to have had an impact on those stats.
Rob, you aren't alone in thinking along those lines. Robert Cringely wrote
on June 29th about the same thing (link below) titled "An AIR of
Invisibility: Adobe has Microsoft in its sights"
On another note ... how's your Sis doing?
She's had some problems. Another operation on her neck. A pacemaker.
Physio twice daily. The house has been totally converted for her needs
and has a lift on a van now, but can't drive it yet.
She manages to stand and has some feed-back from her feet, but no
motor (small or large) on her legs. She's painting and has become
quite proficient at feeding herself and chatting with friends on her
computer. She's mostly in good spirits but her mobility hasn't really
improved from a year ago.
My mother, on the other hand, was wrongly diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
Turns out she had a nasty nervous break-down after my sister's fall.
She's shaken all that off her, after 10 months..and is now happy as a
clam in a super-cool retirement home. She remembers very little of the
last 8-10 months but is as sharp as a tack.. just like new. We're all
amazed and very grateful.
My dad had to go to a home a few weeks ago. He has dementia and has
been falling down.
Soooo, with all that, and the new land-lady of my new shop making
unreasonable demands (triple sound insulation...putting sub-floors in
so glue won't spill on her floor, tractor trailers for me have to use
another drive-way where their forklift can't go because it doesn't
have yard tires.. just one demand after another.. I said to hell with
this, I'll build something instead. So, I'm getting 2 houses ready for
sale and shop for some land in the spring.
Oh... and I need a frickin' vacation.
<EG> thanks for asking...lol.
No actually your United States Supreme Court has JUST ruled that
this type of pricing is not illegal. Usually the manufacturer tells
retail outleft that if they want to sell the product, they have
to maintain the price.
Only way to get any discount, is 1) avoiding sales tax - internet,
2) discounts that the store might apply to a total purchase - "Today
you spend $40, you will save an additional $5!!". That's how I bought
my Tormek sharpening system at Woodcraft - on my "birthday discount"
card that I get once a year.
I've got a major b-day coming up and I'd like to get one of those
new Festool screw guns. We will see.
Well, I think I got it during my birthday month. I could be wrong but
there was a discount offering for all things (except Festool!) during
which I got my Tormek. I would think that Woodcraft would
have standardized the discount offerings across franchises. We
only have two in our area of over 100 mile radius.
Perhaps you could talk to him and find out why he does this?
Letting him know, you could be ordering via the Internet and
cutting him out directly the next time you buy?
Mike Dobony wrote:
> According to an Ebay store the new Festool products MUST be sold at
> suggested retail price, no matter the outlet. Gee, isn't that
> in price fixing?
It is my understanding that retail outlets displaying Festool products
are actually "AGENTS" of Festool.
AS an example, my local hardware store has a display of Festool, but
Orders are placed via phone to Festool in Nevada and shipped same day
to here in SoCal(Yes, you pay CA sales tax)
IOW, the right of ownership transfers directly from Festool to the end
purchaser and the retailer is then paid a commission.
Since Festool is the seller, they can set whatever price they like.
It is an old marketing trick that finds limited application these days.
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