The Rikon 18" 10-345 band saw is here


FINALLy.
Woodcraft called yesterday and I picked the saw up today. 3 of us tipped it into my pickup and I got an idea of the amount of effort it was going to take form my son and I to unload it and get it into the garage.
The saw was in a plywood crate that was well built and perfectly protected the contents. My truck has a rubberized sprayed bed liner. My son and I grunted and groaned for 20 minutes trying to slide the crate to the end of the tail gate some 20 inches. Once the crate was at the end of the tail gate, I lifted from the ground and he pushed from inside the bed. Another 12 inches in only 5 minutes. 30 more inches and the crate began to tip and slowly it slid down to the concrete drive nice and slow. The crate sets on 3, 3x3 particle board skids that stick to concrete like Velcro. The crate WAS NOT GOING TO SLIDE ANYWHERE. We tipped the crate over a bit and put 2x4's under it so that we could slide it over those. NOT. Velcro adhesion still in effect. Finally I slipped a 2 wheel dolly under one end and lifted while my son pushed from the other end. 1 minute later the crate is in the garage.
A good 15 minutes to dismantle the crate and there sat a beautifully shrink wrapped band saw. Clean, dry and no grease or preservatives gunking everything up. As I was cutting the shrink wrap off I unwrapped and handed off to my son on the other side of the saw. BLAM, and I go running around the garage like a chicken with its head cut off. The shrink wrap was holding the cast iron table on edge against the saw column and I had not noticed that. It fell on my big toe, all of about 50# of it. The cast iron top was in a plastic bag and covered with oil. The table was the only thing that I had to clean.
Now I have to measure the base and assemble the Rockler universal mobile base. The kit is well made but as usual the instructions were a hoot to read. Step 3. When the machine is in resting position, take off the Central wheel by "loosing" the 2 thumb screws for avoiding kicking and saving spaces. I am calling Rockler tomorrow to get 2 new thumb screw to replace the ones that I was instructed to lose.
Moving the saw from the crate bottom on to the mobile base was non eventful. I laid 2 Ipe boards across the mobile base and under the crate. Slid the saw onto the Ipe boards and centered the saw to the base, tipped the saw and removed the Ipe boards one end at a time. Ahhh, a perfect fit.
The saw seems to be as well made as any tool that I have purchased. Look out Jet and Delta. Fit and finish, paint, attention to details, perfect. Cast iron table top finish almost comparable to a PM66. Grind marks still visible but a mirror finish. The trunion and been changed on this newer model. It is now cast aluminum that is a minimum 1/4" thick. The blade guard has a small window at the bottom so that you can see cuts on thin materials and the guard has a hinged door to make blade changing a little easier. The tension release lever is now at the bottom of the upper cabinet and moves left to right horizontally. I was informed that the upper and lower wheel bearings are improved also.
I have not had much of a chance so far to test the cuts but I was able to immediately cut 2" thick Oak in to slices 1/16" thick using the stock fence and not having to adjust for drift. The surface was not smooth as I expected but the thickness was consistent.
Now my toe is starting to swell. ;~(
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You have arrived... only a true believer is willing to sacrifice their body for their art... ;~)
John
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All you kids are so cute on Christmas mornings! I hear the trunnion is an improvement. Anyone know? Tom
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I believe the original was stamped steel and was superior by comparison to other units. Hopefully the aluminum one is an actual improvement.
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What you make on the grapes, you lose on the toe... er, tomatoes. At least you have a new tool to mitigate the pain on the toe, if not on the wallet.
Congratulations, in any event, or in order.
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Thank you sir. I was going to call you about the instructions on the mobile base but the drawings were pretty good. :~) I figgered you would have a good understanding having been through that lately.
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[snipped for brevity]

Hey, who knows what kinda blade came with it...I'm sure you'll tweak it to maximum performance soon enough. Besides, with that new planer, who cares if there are a few saw marks :)

Get it x-rayed. Then, into a cast up to your waist. *G* Seriously, crushed toes are nothing to mess with. Infections can flare up in a couple of hours. See a doctor, immediately.
Congrats on the new saw, use it in good health.
r
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From what I understand, the original blade is a real pooper. And the new planer is working nicely. I glued up some 7/8" thick oak double thickness for the rails on the mobile base. I needed 1.5"x1.5" stock for that. I ripped 1-5/8" wide and glued. This morning I sent the squares 8 footers through the planer taking just a whisper. The falling shavings looked like snow flakes floating in the sir. It was a cool 68 degrees F and all was well. ;~)

Actually the swelling stopped and I have popped my toe knuckle a couple of times and all felt normal. :~) No throbbing or pain any more.

Thank you sir. Now if I can learn to stop popping my fore head into the guard adjustment wheel knob. I have done that 2 times already. Its going to be my toe or my eye that suffers. :~)
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Perhaps some protective head gear may be in order.
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A basic motion detector, the kind that fit in a light switch, a buzzer and a xenon-arc discharge tube. $ 30.00 and an hour's work.
You can control the 'view' of the motion detector with a simple cardboard tube and fiddling with the sensitivity settings.
The neighbour's dog has NEVER revisited my garbage cans since his one and only encounter with 'The Device'. No reason Leon couldn't mount one on his bandsaw?
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Many years ago, in my first shop, there were LOW beams. And I smacked my head into them a number of times. I was walking down the street one day and saw some nice, bright closed cell foam sheets at a garage sale for cheap. They were about a quarter inch thick. Nice and firm. I bought them and carried them home.
I cut those foam sheets up and nailed several layers anyplace where my head might hit. They were bright and easy to see. And if I spaced out and ran into them, it was much nicer than a hard wood beam.
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Let me get this straight here, Lee. Hitting the beam was nice..but you managed to make it nicer. I must try that. :)
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It is all relative. It was never nice to hit the beam. But if it had to happen, it was much nicer to have it heavily padded.
Even with the padding, it was a bit of a shock to hit it.
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Robatoy wrote:

Tape it to the toe next to it. That's what the ER is going to do. Send me $200.
Oh yeah, if it turns black and starts smelling like rotten garbage, forget I said anything.
You're going to like that bandsaw. I bought mine right after Woodcraft started carrying the Rikon and love it.
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:55:14 GMT, "Leon"
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Leon, congrats on finally getting your saw - it only took two months ;-)
Would you be willing to post photos of the new tensioning mechanism? The biggest weakness in the previous model, IMO, was the non-linear tensioning mechanism. I'd like to see how they've improved it.
If it's a hassle, NP, I can always go to Woodcraft and check it out in person - it just that visiting Woodcraft is always expensive ;-)
TWS
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I'll do that this afternoon.
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:10:21 GMT, "Leon"

Cool! Thanks! I like the changes. Firstly because they seem like they fixed weaknesses in the original and secondly because it means that they're interested in improving their product rather than milking the cash cow.
I like the new tensioning mechanism and really like the new trunion set up rather than the stamped metal pieces they put on the original.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pics. I appreciate it. Tom
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Your are welcome Tom.
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=======================EXPENSIVE ????
Got the flyer yesterday in the mail... da ta da New Woodcraft Store in Leesburg Virginia opens this weekend.. 10 percent off everything in the store this Saturday .. and its only 25 miles from the house...
Yesterday was also the day I got my First ever Social Security check (Direct Deposit actually )
SO
I plan to drop by this new Woodcraft and let Uncle Sam buy me a few things...
I am still using my original early 60's Crapsman Bandsaw...and to be honest have been only thinking of replacing it for about 30 years....Saturday just may be the day... lol
I DO plan on bypassing the Clamp Section... and you all know why
Bob G..
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.I'm envious Leon, my Woodcraft didn't get a full shipment so I got bumped and I'm still waiting. Of interest was going into a Western Tool store here in Washington to get some tie downs. I mentioned the Rikon Band saw and they said they have a brand called Pionier made my Rikon. The 14' looked similar. He said there President just came back from China describing a loading dock divided into Jet, Powermatic, Delta, Rikon, and a few others. Oh well inspect the tool but so far I'm impressed with the other Rikon I have. Have you ever tried Lennox bladess. Had great luck with a 3/4" on my 14" no need to worry about tracking
Mike M
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 00:55:14 GMT, "Leon"

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