On 21 Nov 2005 13:02:44 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Remember when the lumber yard used to *give* you a pencil each time
you came in? When I worked as a hod carrier we used to get whole boxes
of pencils from the brickyard - I'm still using them almost 15 years
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and
bring something to kill"
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:02:51 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Jim
Let's see, the closest HD is in Eugene, OR, 100 miles north of me. The
closest Lowes is in Medford, 25 miles south of me. Two TrueValue
hardware stores are 4 and 8 miles away. A large (mini-HD) store called
Diamond Home Improvement is 5 miles away and an electrical/plumbing
store (Grover) with GREAT prices is 4 miles away. I get by shopping
for most of my necessary items at Grover and Diamond.
I order from HD via mail-order only. And I make (bi?)monthly trips to
Medford, stopping at all the big stores (Costco, Target, Lowes) when I
do. Now that gas is expensive, it's cheaper to order most things from
HD by mail. I had a Ryobi 14.4v cordless tool set (drill, cirdc saw,
charger, 2 batts, case; $99) delivered for $12, less than half what it
would cost in gas and without losing half a day to drive it.
You guys are lucky. I used to have a HD within 5 miles of my old home,
but I much prefer the climate (socio/politico/weather) up here, so I'm
not too jealous.
I've also learned to buy multiples of whatever I get when I go.
Instead of a single 1/2" nipple/ell/tee, light switches, brackets,
nuts/bolts/lags/screws, etc., I'll get a handful (or 100pc box) of
each. That has saved extra trips several times so far, and new
hardware always beats an old crusty piece. Often, 100-piece boxes
cost less than the 20 individual bolts, etc.
"Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars!
That's my experience as well. There's a local mom-and-pop hardware
store about a mile from my house, with a Home Depot a block or so
away. I would prefer to go to the mom-and-pop store, but they close
at 5:00pm on weekdays, noon or 1:00pm (I think) on Saturdays, and are
closed on Sundays. In other words, whenever I'm indulging my hobby
or doing home repairs they're almost always closed.
It's a shame, because I can walk in the mom-and-pop store with only a
vague idea of what I need, describe my problem, and they'll say, "Oh
yes, we have that right here" and lead me straight to it.
My usual (but not invariable) experience with the large chain stores
is that I can walk in knowing exactly what I want, ask a store
employee where it is, and they don't even know what I mean. "I don't
think we carry that...."
Sometimes I am certain that they do indeed carry such an item, so I
spend too much time searching until I find the paint scrapers with
the doors, or the 1.25" dowels (minus 0.02" or more) right next to
Factory town, maybe? Rochester NY used to have lots of businesses that
closed too early, thinking that everyone worked shifts at Kodak and got out
at 4:00. Not very smart. Even Boy Scout and sports leagues used to start
activities at 5:30 or 6:00, not giving 9-5 workers time to get home and eat.
Tell the mom & pop that 6:00 on weekdays would be a smart move.
It takes forever to change. I don't expect my local hardware store to be
open till 9 every night, but they received applause when they changed from
5:30 to 6:30 on weeknights. I thanked them and the owner said
"Yeah....everyone's telling us that".
If you are speaking of the one in Florence, Ky....and I assume you
are...Lowe's is less than 1/4 mile from there. Did they apologize to
your satisfaction...if not, you know our newspapers around here are
more than happy to slander any business that screws over the
customer....contact Howard Ain or Michelle Hopkins.
Our biggest business around here is IBM, but there are a lot of other things,
universities, etc. The old fasioned hardware stores tend to close at 6:00, Boy
Scouts and stuff like that tend to 7:00. I don't know if that's your Kodak Park
effect shifted by an hour,though..
Banty (former daughter of Great Yellow Father)
Well, like I said, it's changing here. Kid activities, especially, took a
long time because so often, they're run by little committees (and I say that
with the utmost in derogatory intent). We had a Boy Scout troop run by women
who thought "everyone should be able to get here by 5:00 if they're really
committed". Nonsense. When hardly anyone showed up, they interpreted it to
mean nobody was interested. When they moved the hours later, the meetings
were packed, which they interpreted as unrelated to the time change. Duh.
:-) These ladies were later made to go away and never come back, except to
drop off and pick up their kids.
Yep, we have a few of those type organizers too. The "everyone in the
troop/pack must (in the head of the organizer) go by my family's work schedule,
and they must all (again in the head of the organizer) belong to the same parish
too". So, they'll insist that xxx time is the *only* time things can happen,
this weekend in May can't have plans because of their confirmations (and insist
on a date which coflicts with another parish's confirmations).
But we've had various luck as far as making them go away :)
HD gave me a pretty nice black baseball cap after I spent about $6000.
I colored the orange HD logo in with a black felt pen and about a year later had
a HD employee tell me that they could demand the cap back because I had defaced
it. I laughed in his face, and continued shopping but a few minutes later I saw
a group of them pointing at me. Nothing happened, but I actually felt
I had nothing against HD I just hate wearing anything with a company logo on it.
I rarely go into the store anymore, preferring to drive the extra mile and go to
the granite place i stop in every now and then usually has pallets full of
sink cutouts that get hauled to the dump every week. i get them for free
just for asking. they are cut out with a diamond tipped cnc controlled
router, so frequently, if not always, come out as one piece with a very
note: home depot doesn't do the cutting. you should go to the actual
fabricators if you want the cutout.
I remember when I was a kid, the hardware store gave customers yard sticks
(remember those?) with their name/phone/etc. printed on them...
I still have a couple around, somewhere..
Please remove splinters before emailing
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:49:45 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Podunk isn't in Bama, Theo. It's just outside West BF, Egypt.
Ooh, nice mamasan pic!
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OK, I missed the OP, and also generally avoid OT convesation, but this
is a good one, and well ...it does have to do with wood, sort of...
unless they now have high tech pencils.
Anyhow, [and this is to do with this general topic, but not wood?] I
won't shop at Consumers Distributing. They not only will inspect your
baggage [shame on them increasing costs that way. Let people steal, I
say!], they also make oyu pay for the privilege of shoppingthere, and
even worse, won' recognise jus any old credit card. It AHS TO be
The nerve of them. I won't shop there.
OK, seriously, I avoid HD at all costs [pun intended.] I wanted a
present for a large family of kids for a visit in the summer. Why buy
a ton when you need only one? So I settled on a Milkshake maker with
the works [ice-cream etc.] Cutting it short, after some dialogue with
a 12 yr old clerk who knew as much about the store as my pet dog [I
haven't any idea where we would have gone if I'd wanted woodworking
tools] , we decided I'd take the demo that had been sitting out on
display, being handled by God knows who or how many for the past month
or so. I said I'd take it with a demo discount. "Oh, I'll have to
ask the manager." Guess what? No discount. No sense complaining to
the manager either, I guess. I left without, and haven't been back
since. My money, my choice.
Ok, it's been fun, now back to serious woodworking. I need to know
what colour to paint my workbench ...No, I'm just kidding. I know
everybody here paints theirs pink.
actually, it will do a great job cutting it. i cut small granite pieces with
a tile saw frequently. the problem is the size of the table. the machine to
cut these large slabs starts around $2 million, and they're about as large
as a 3 car garage.
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