OT - Trip to La Vegas!

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Bruce wrote:

Thats ok, I can go to the original Owl Cafe in San Antonio, NM and have the juciest most bestest<G> Green Chili Cheeseburger in the entire world and wash it down with a tall necked beer. Of course its an 80 mile trip but when its that good...
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:42:39 -0700, Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote:

I've been to the owl bar. my bro in law took me there. that was a while ago- prolly a decade or so....
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Bruce wrote:
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Its real clean, and safe as there are security people all over. If a problem occurs they are on it in a heartbeat. Wife and I feel quite safe down there - Fremont Street. The hourly free light show is AMAZING!
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In rec.woodworking Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote:

I didn't mean to diss it, we do visit everytime we go but I guess I'm more of a tourist than a gambler. And the casinos down there just have too much smoke in them for me, though the rules are often more favorable.
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Bruce wrote:

We rarely gamble either but when we saw Chubby Checker there free (and another very well known group of that era I can't recall the name of now) 2 years ago I was impressed. Foods a lot cheaper downtown by far.
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I will be there in early January to attend the CES show. The best thing in to hit the strip and tour all the hotels, the big ones are individual and contain different themes and entertainment ranging from zoos, "street" entertainment, shopping, shark tanks, a must see is the Eifel tower at the Paris, the shopping forum at Ceasars, etc. They are installing a Disney type of monorail circling the center of the city. There are many great shows. LV is not as cheap as it used to be, but there is much that can be done on a budget.

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I was there in the Spring and the you are correct about it not being cheap anymore. It used to be that the hotels and food was cheap because they wanted your money in the casinos. It is a very expensive place to visit now. The shows are all $100 or more. I would not go to the older LV part. It was pretty run down and not worth the cab fare. Everyone should go to LV at least once in their life but I have no desire to return.
Neal

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Wife and I go often. First and foremost, take some VERY COMFORTABLE SHOES, or your feet will complain forever. No joke, you're going to do lots of walking.
Cheaper hotels by far are downtown (Fremont St.) and the overhead light show is outstanding - Fremont St experience. Plaza, Horseshoe, Golden Gate etc. Food is cheaper downtown too. The strip isn't far away and bus service is easily available, cheap and frequent. The section of the strip between Excaliber and Ceasars Palace basically will keep you entertained for quite awhile. If you have a few extra bucks, take the kids by the Excaliber or stay there if you can afford it. The kids will love it for sure and they always have free magic shows etc in there.
Having said all that, check out http://www.lvol.com for whats going on etc whenever you visit. We always check it for conventions etc before we go.
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forth from the murky depths:

Make sure you go _through_ the dam. I talked some friends into driving me out there once (I was without a car on that trip) but they wouldn't let me go on the tour, the main reason I took the 40 mile trip there, the richardcraniums.
Be sure to go on all 3 rides at the Luxor pyramid. 1 is romantic (boat trip) and 2 are wild rides which aren't to be missed!
There's a Thai restaurant where I ALWAYS get green chicken curry there. It's Komol Thai. http://www.aaamenus.com/komol.html
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In rec.woodworking

If it hasn't changed in the past year or so, you can't go inside the dam anymore, since 9/11.

Oh God, I bought all 3 tickets but was too green after the first one to do anymore. The tickets are good for a year and my sons used them about 9 months later.
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Sorry I can't help you. SWMBO and I drove through this fall and didn't even stop, except for the red-light. It was Las Vegas, NM!
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Good thing you did stop. Their corrupt police department probably would have shot you if you hadn't. They did in a teenager for a traffic violation a couple years back that way, shot him thru the back of his little pickup, and they're are well known for sticking it to passersby - yup, LV, NM. Armpit city...
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Well I must say "thanks to all". I now have a lot of things to do and places to see and stay. I think that we are going to have to stay about a week to do all the things that you guys listed.
Thanks again, Jon Healy Saugus, CA

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When are you going? Try to avoid the weeks of major conventions. The hotels bump the room prices out the window into the stratosphere these weeks. I am attending CES on January 6 for one week and the hotels have very little room and charge about $150.00 per night for rooms they normally charge $50.00 for.

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If it's like Reno, the place to stay *is* one of the casino hotels. _nice_ rooms are dirt-cheap. The Last time I was through Reno overnight, I had a $16 (!!) room at Fitzgeralds. The room was 'only' about 14'x40'in size. TWO _king_ beds, Two TVs, 2 big upholstered wing chairs, plus table with 4 side chairs, _and_ a second 2-place table out on the balcony.
Casino gambling is, in general, a very 'anti-social' activity. Erm, make that 'non social'. no conversation or banter, etc.
Any of the 'gambling towns' are "adult" entertainment places. Not much for kids -- not allowed in the gambling areas, etc. Most of the casinos have similar 'non social' activity rooms for the kids -- video game arcades, etc.
Overall, *lots* of glitz and glitter. Mostly 'semi-tacky'. Not 'cheap', just grossly over-done.
Stage shows at the casinos _are_ impressive productions. Many -- make that most -- will be unsuitable for children, however. One staple description: "100 beautiful girls, 50 gorgeous costumes".
For 'non-casino' things, it depends on your (collectively) taste/inclinations Theres the dam, the race-track, the USAF test facility ("Dreamland") and/or Nellis AFB, some _great_ golf-courses. There's also desert tours, horseback riding, hiking, etc.
See the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authority <http://www.lvcva.com/ web-site for other 'things to do' in the area.
Depending on what you consider "the vicinity", there's the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, rafting on the Colorado River, Death Valley.
Further away, but worth the visit, "The Arches" national park, Bryce Canyon, Meteor Crater, Natural Bridges Nat'l Monument, Canyonlands Natl Park
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Hmmm, no one has mentioned the Liberace Museum yet. Bet the kids would be thrilled. Ed
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Strange, I really thought that was covered in the paragraph reading:
"Overall, *lots* of glitz and glitter. Mostly 'semi-tacky'. Not 'cheap', just grossly over-done."
*grin*
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:18:32 -0500 (EST), snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (T.) wrote:
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Heck I live down here. Tell me where she lives and I'll drive by for you!
Allyn
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