OK, just tried it, you already appear to be using Firefox, so go and install
the GreaseMonkey extension from the above page, restart Firefox, then click
on the link to the GG Kilefile script, it will ask you if you want to
install it, say Yes.
In GG I saw links labelled 'Kill Thread' and 'Ignore User' littered
Be careful, have fun, and don't ignore yourself.
How? Why? Conversations are protected by wiretap laws. Billing
records are not. The phone company even has them. ;-)
There was a need to save them from the hordes of ambulance chasers
that would have sued them senseless. Even if they won (who knows
what a stupid jury would do - look at this thread) they'd be out
millions in defense costs. Not much incentive to cooperate.
Progress is good. It beats the alternatives.
Sometimes the way a question is asked changes the form of the
: What am I not understanding?
That if we don't blindly do everything the administration wants,
and make sure to adjust laws as needed to make it all legal, then the
Terrorists Will Have Already Won.
-- Andy Barss
I am NOT a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, either <Grin. That's a joke>
No laws have been "adjusted". It's been that way for a long, long time.
If a cop comes knocking at the door, you have the absolute right to refuse
entry, but the fact is, most people wouldn't. If he has a warrant, you do
not have the right of refusal. In fact, with some warrants, they really
don't even have to knock first.
(Watch COPS sometime when they're on a drug bust. The cops will routinely
knock once, scream out "police", and less than two seconds later hit the
door with a battering ram.)
Well, the telco's were the same way. Telco's routinely supply police (even
local police, much less the feds,) with telephone records. Been doing it
The dustup in Congress, was the provision to stop lawsuits against the
telco's. And make no mistake, there was a long range plan to this. They
didn't want some podunk judge somewhere finding that there WAS an
expectation of privacy attached to the non-public records.
(Read Roe v. Wade sometime and the Supremes logic concerning privacy and
abortion. People, good, honest people, are still fighting over that one,
with no end in sight.)
This is NOT a clear cut issue. For instance, the CDC just issued a warning
about the worst outbreak of measles in a decade. Would it be in the
public's interest to require the CDC to get a court order every time just to
build the statistics about a measles outbreak?
Banks are a bit more touchy. Most banks, AFAIK, don't routinely supply
records...but they could if they wanted too. It the IRS that can get really
nasty. They can freeze accounts without recourse to any court/judge.
I seem to remember something about telephone taps on fiber optic cables. If
they tap the cable, for suspect X, they may end up tapping thousands of
conversations. Seems, (as I remember), absolutely no information gained
from any extraraneous source B can be used in court. Period.
Well, Andrew, if there aren't enough terrorists to allow an
administration to operate under the 'fear' ticket, you might as well
make some up. How would you control the angry masses who pay over 4
dollars for gasoline if you didn't have the terrorists to blame?
Take a slice of daily life and remove the influence of terrorists...
what would you have left?
What if Poland hadn't been a threat to Germany in the 30's? The Dutch
were about to invade? You think the German people would have rallied
around a mad man in the hope to find protection?
It is an old formula. It works. For a while.
Bin Laden has been dead for 4 years. But, he's no good to Bush, dead.
So they keep him alive...BOOGA BOOGA!!!
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