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J. Clarke wrote:

Thanks...
Means differential increase in CO2 hasn't nearly the effect in influencing further effects as did/does at much lower concentrations. Hence, isn't any great net effect either way of either increasing nor decreasing concentrations from present point.
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J. Clarke wrote:

Put in a different way -- CO2 only absorbs energy in specific wavelengths of light (think of it as a filter the CO2 absorbs light in certain wavelengths and does not affect other wavelengths, letting that energy pass through with no impact). At some point, the maximum absorption in those wavelengths is reached and all of the energy in those narrow bands is being absorbed. Thereafter, it doesn't matter how much additional CO2 you pump into the system, no additional energy in those wavebands can be absorbed and CO2 has zero impact in other wavelengths of light.
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Should be true if all light of that wavelength has been absorbed. Don't know if and when that would happen. There might be very much light of those wavelengths, more than crrently or in the near future would be absorbed.
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Han wrote:

Measurements indicate that at the current concentration level of CO2 there's already only a small differential--hence, the emphasis on CO2 seems misplaced as far as changes making any significant difference (either way).
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On 2/1/2010 10:50 AM, dpb wrote:

AccuWeather's Joe Bastardi made a pretty good argument last week that the CO2 AGW adherents may be shooting themselves in the foot.
FRIDAY 11 PM LONDON TIME "A THEORY ON WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE CLIMATE MODELS."
http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp
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scrawled the following:

Y'mean "the knee of the hockey stick?" <bseg>
I haven't yet read all of this paper, but it looks like a fair analysis. (Well, except for the dead polar bear pic. Har!) http://brneurosci.org/co2.html It has a CO2 absorption chart. Please describe what you're talking about via the chart, or show another one to which you refer.
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Larry Jaques wrote: ...

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I've not read any of it, but Fig 4 shows the effect. (Whether the fits are meaningful quantitatively is another question, but the shape is...)
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scrawled the following:

Hey, nice definition. <sigh>
Yeah, we're above the knee, alright. Do read it and let us know what you think.
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Thanks...glad to help
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:34:02 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone

I'll give you odds that he denies validity...IF he says anything more. ;)
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ROFL.
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:56:28 -0700, the infamous "Max"

Yeah, that was truly slick of Baldy, wasnt' it, Max?
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wrote:

Not one of those links backs up your statement that "CO2 is NOT, in fact, a greenhouse gas".
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Dave Balderstone wrote:

-------------------------------------------- Ah yes, unvetted intellectual bull shit.
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On 2/1/2010 1:41 AM, Bob Martin wrote:

That's not what he said ... and you know it, but it does nicely illustrate a major issue in the debate:
Your dishonesty in attempting to remove context with your quote is in keeping with the dishonesty the scientific community has provably shown with its data manipulation.
Shame ...
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:41:24 GMT, the infamous Bob Martin

How's that swallowing coming along, Bob? Looks pretty advanced to me. ;)
You overlooked 3 important words: "...of any import." I'll bet that wasn't an accident, Mr. Alarmist. How does it feel for your entire cartel of Alarmist crime to come tumbling down around you as it is?
Don't worry, you'll find another "cause" soon. You libs always do. Maybe go back to overpopulation or anti-nuke? <BIG sigh>
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Shave The Whales
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..then there is the Canuckistani mantra: "Save The Forests, Eat a Beaver!"
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:53:56 -0800, the infamous "LDosser"

My fave bumper sticker:
NUKE THE GAY BABY WHALES FOR JESUS
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LOL!
Mine from way back is:
FREE THE INDY 500!
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