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well, our wine rack cabinet is about 18" to the left of the sink. normal splashes get sucked under the rack pretty quickly and are impossible to wipe up fast enough since it's not a perfect seal. since the endgrain of the cabinet is against the countertop, water gets wicked up eventually over the years. i had to run a bead of silicone along the bottom edge, which isn't that attractive.
if the bottom edge of the rack is against the countertop and not sealed against water intrusion or raised up off the countertop, i'd expect that the same thing would happen to this install.
regards charlie cave creek, az
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Any possibility of adding thin feet to the bottoms?
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i thought of that. unfortunately, it's installed flush up against the soffet above it and tied into a lightbridge over the sink. it'd also allow an accumulation of sink gunk that it would be nigh impossible to clean. if i could train swmbo to not have to turn on the water full blast and splashing all over the counter and backsplash...
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"charlie" wrote

I'd expect not, mainly due to location, but having also built/installed a good many appliance garages on countertops to foresee this particular kitchen desktop "fixture" suffering a similar problem. Putting it another way ... having also built this house, along with many others, there are a multitude of other things I would lose sleep over first. :)
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Purty-mus.....
Who did the finish ???
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I just designs and builds 'em, Bubba ... if you ever catch this cabinetmaker finishing kitchen cabinets, under any circumstances, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye cuz the world is fixing to come to an end! :)
As always, my paint contractor of long standing. He sprays NC lacquer (while I get the hell-outta-Dodge) on the stained trim/crown molding/etc, and might as well do the kitchen cabinets at the same time.
One "convenience" I ain't gonna do without ...I so much as look at a can of lacquer and get a migraine of epic proportions/duration.
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Now I thought you made a comment about a HVLP turbine system back a week or two ago when I was whining about my lack of finishing ability.
You know you want one don't you ???
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Oh yeah! ... but for my own personal projects, not for spraying kitchen cabinets in new construction where I pay the same square foot painting costs whether the painting contractor finishes the kitchen cabinets along with everything else, or not.
AAMOF, and as I've actually noticed myself getting older these past couple of years, I've been considering not doing any more kitchens in the houses I build, mainly due to the increase in aches and pains coupled with the time it takes away from management tasks, but it is the only alternative to the lousy workmanship/materials and "give a shit" attitude in most other kitchen cabinet choices.
IOW, I have continued to do it because it _personally_ feels good to know that there is at least something in one of my new home construction projects these days that actually has an element of "pride of workmanship" attached to it ... and goodness knows that is an almost extinct _quality_, literally.
Besides, doing so also affords a rare privilege to work with folks like Leon, a craftsman in the finest sense of the word who has "pride of workmanship" infused in his bones, an almost totally extinct trait in the industry today.
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I ask people about the houses they have built/bought. Invariably, the focus is always on the quality of the kitchen. It is a very important component when people evaluate "the happiness with their new abode."
And yet... the kitchen is where the spec builders try their damnest to save a buck. How many times have I walked into a new home and appreciated the lay-out, the location, the windows, the view.. and then be stopped dead in my tracks to do a vaudeville-version of a triple-take when I see the piece-of-shit kitchen they stuck in there at the end.
Many times, it is a matter of the home-owner walking through the place and following the suggestions of the trim carpenters...."Oh yes, I would LOVE a bit more substantial base-board....yessss some ceiling fans would be nice...oh please wire in the speaker-wires......" Then.. by the time the closing date rears its inevitable, ugly head, they're all out of money... "best we back off on the kitchen..".."Rob, isn't there ANYTHING you can do on the price of that Quartz?"
At this point my reply is usually preceded by:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/rflol_seal1.jpg
seriously...
If I hadn't been doing this for as long as I have, I would have thought I'd be accustomed to this way of thinking. But it never stops to amaze me what pieces of shit that are sold as kitchens. So, it is a pleasure to see a nice piece, like Karl's and Leon's.... even though NEITHER have answered my question if they DO cut out their kicks from their gables or if they use a separate kick....or even if they make their own doors (if they did, I'd be interested to know how they justified the extra work as there are many great door-makers.)
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"Robatoy" wrote

Sorry, didn't see that post, apparently.
The cabinets are made with built-in kicks. I usually put one or two "toe-kick drawers" in also ... this kitchen only had one of those, which is shown open, to the left of the stove, in one of the pictures, IIRC.
....or even if they make

Doors ... how times have changed, eh?
For a one or two off kitchen cabinet job, I'll do them myself.
For an entire set of "kitchen cabinets in new residential construction" I've learned by experience that it is a waste of time/money to fabricate the doors/drawer fronts myself.
Initially I was not of that mind and tried varying combinations of doing the cut list/panel glue-ups, subbing out the milling, providing the wood and doing the final assembly, etc; then finally got smart and just let a shop that does nothing but doors do the whole door/drawer front enchilada ... and at a far cheaper price than I could pay myself to do it.
Drawers is a different story.
Stubbornly drawn the line in this reasoning at drawers. Although the same economics probably apply, I have yet to sub that task out, and I'll probably quit before it comes to that. Besides, drawers are one of the few opportunities I get to work with hard maple, a wood I really enjoy working with. :)
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that one corner lifts off the frame by an inch... I got somebody to call. *S*
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that one corner lifts off the frame by an inch... I got somebody to call. *S*
I still build my kitchen doors. ;~) In fact many of my kitchen face lifts are simply new doors and drawers.
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Down in the lower pictures, you show a line of base cabinets going from "about" 24" deep down to a really narrow set that'a maybe 12". What's up with that ?
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"Pat Barber" wrote

Indeed ... a 12" deep base cabinet, which perfectly complements the narrow serving hallway between the kitchen and the formal dining room.
.. and I just love building angles "transition" cabinets. AAMOF, I love it so much I built one that goes the wrong way three years ago and still haven't built a "mirror image" kitchen for it to go in. :(
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