well, our wine rack cabinet is about 18" to the left of the sink. normal
splashes get sucked under the rack pretty quickly and are impossible to wipe
up fast enough since it's not a perfect seal. since the endgrain of the
cabinet is against the countertop, water gets wicked up eventually over the
years. i had to run a bead of silicone along the bottom edge, which isn't
if the bottom edge of the rack is against the countertop and not sealed
against water intrusion or raised up off the countertop, i'd expect that the
same thing would happen to this install.
cave creek, az
i thought of that. unfortunately, it's installed flush up against the soffet
above it and tied into a lightbridge over the sink. it'd also allow an
accumulation of sink gunk that it would be nigh impossible to clean. if i
could train swmbo to not have to turn on the water full blast and splashing
all over the counter and backsplash...
I'd expect not, mainly due to location, but having also built/installed a
good many appliance garages on countertops to foresee this particular
kitchen desktop "fixture" suffering a similar problem. Putting it another
way ... having also built this house, along with many others, there are a
multitude of other things I would lose sleep over first. :)
I just designs and builds 'em, Bubba ... if you ever catch this cabinetmaker
finishing kitchen cabinets, under any circumstances, bend over and kiss your
ass goodbye cuz the world is fixing to come to an end! :)
As always, my paint contractor of long standing. He sprays NC lacquer (while
I get the hell-outta-Dodge) on the stained trim/crown molding/etc, and might
as well do the kitchen cabinets at the same time.
One "convenience" I ain't gonna do without ...I so much as look at a can of
lacquer and get a migraine of epic proportions/duration.
Oh yeah! ... but for my own personal projects, not for spraying kitchen
cabinets in new construction where I pay the same square foot painting costs
whether the painting contractor finishes the kitchen cabinets along with
everything else, or not.
AAMOF, and as I've actually noticed myself getting older these past couple
of years, I've been considering not doing any more kitchens in the houses I
build, mainly due to the increase in aches and pains coupled with the time
it takes away from management tasks, but it is the only alternative to the
lousy workmanship/materials and "give a shit" attitude in most other kitchen
IOW, I have continued to do it because it _personally_ feels good to know
that there is at least something in one of my new home construction projects
these days that actually has an element of "pride of workmanship" attached
to it ... and goodness knows that is an almost extinct _quality_, literally.
Besides, doing so also affords a rare privilege to work with folks like
Leon, a craftsman in the finest sense of the word who has "pride of
workmanship" infused in his bones, an almost totally extinct trait in the
I ask people about the houses they have built/bought. Invariably, the
focus is always on the quality of the kitchen.
It is a very important component when people evaluate "the happiness
with their new abode."
And yet... the kitchen is where the spec builders try their damnest to
save a buck. How many times have I walked into a new home and
appreciated the lay-out, the location, the windows, the view.. and
then be stopped dead in my tracks to do a vaudeville-version of a
triple-take when I see the piece-of-shit kitchen they stuck in there
at the end.
Many times, it is a matter of the home-owner walking through the place
and following the suggestions of the trim carpenters...."Oh yes, I
would LOVE a bit more substantial base-board....yessss some ceiling
fans would be nice...oh please wire in the speaker-wires......" Then..
by the time the closing date rears its inevitable, ugly head, they're
all out of money... "best we back off on the kitchen..".."Rob, isn't
there ANYTHING you can do on the price of that Quartz?"
At this point my reply is usually preceded by:
If I hadn't been doing this for as long as I have, I would have
thought I'd be accustomed to this way of thinking. But it never stops
to amaze me what pieces of shit that are sold as kitchens. So, it is a
pleasure to see a nice piece, like Karl's and Leon's.... even though
NEITHER have answered my question if they DO cut out their kicks from
their gables or if they use a separate kick....or even if they make
their own doors (if they did, I'd be interested to know how they
justified the extra work as there are many great door-makers.)
Sorry, didn't see that post, apparently.
The cabinets are made with built-in kicks. I usually put one or two
"toe-kick drawers" in also ... this kitchen only had one of those, which is
shown open, to the left of the stove, in one of the pictures, IIRC.
....or even if they make
Doors ... how times have changed, eh?
For a one or two off kitchen cabinet job, I'll do them myself.
For an entire set of "kitchen cabinets in new residential construction" I've
learned by experience that it is a waste of time/money to fabricate the
doors/drawer fronts myself.
Initially I was not of that mind and tried varying combinations of doing the
cut list/panel glue-ups, subbing out the milling, providing the wood and
doing the final assembly, etc; then finally got smart and just let a shop
that does nothing but doors do the whole door/drawer front enchilada ... and
at a far cheaper price than I could pay myself to do it.
Drawers is a different story.
Stubbornly drawn the line in this reasoning at drawers. Although the same
economics probably apply, I have yet to sub that task out, and I'll probably
quit before it comes to that. Besides, drawers are one of the few
opportunities I get to work with hard maple, a wood I really enjoy working
Indeed ... a 12" deep base cabinet, which perfectly complements the narrow
serving hallway between the kitchen and the formal dining room.
.. and I just love building angles "transition" cabinets. AAMOF, I love it
so much I built one that goes the wrong way three years ago and still
haven't built a "mirror image" kitchen for it to go in. :(
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