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I took the recommendation of " snipped-for-privacy@aol.com" and used Jasco's Premium Paint & Epoxy Remover because it claimed to:
1. remove tough and easy coatings including paint, epoxy, urethane, latex, lacquers 2. be fast-acting in 5-15 minutes 3. remove "multiple coats with one application".
I used a new paint brush to flow the remover on in a thick coat in one direction. I waited 15 minutes (until surface was blistered). I removed the finish with a plastic spatula.
After following the above process FOUR times, almost all of the original finish remained. Jasco wasted my money and wasted my time.
=================== I then used a DeWalt Heavy-Duty 1/4-Sheet Palm Grip Sander. I started with 80-grit sandpaper and it removed ALL of the finish very quickly and cleanly. I then used a 150-grit sandpaper and finished with a 220-grit sandpaper. FANTASTIC RESULTS!!
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snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:

That's curious. I just reread the thread and the only two poducts he mentioned were BIX and StripEase.
BTW, there's no reason to start a new thread when we're still talking about the original question.
R
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The post you referred to says "If you have a harder or more durable finish, you may want to use the SOMETHING LIKE the StripEase brand of heavy duty finish remover".
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snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:

So if I recommended that you keep the conversation in the one thread, you'd read that as why-not-start-a-third-thread? Yep, makes sense to me. I thought dyslexia was a reading malfunction - never encountered logic dyslexia before.
R
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On 10 Jun 2006 20:54:41 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
Might have been a bitch to sand off if the repeated coats of Jasco didn't soften the finish first..
In the interest of protecting our rights and fragile asses, the EPA has dumbed down paint remover to the level of useless, IMHO..
The stuff in "the day" that you used with mask and gloves took off paint, varnish, old glue and just about anything else.....

Mac
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I had to refinish a coffee-table and two end-tables.
When the four applications of the Jasco failed to remove the original finish on the coffee-table, I switched to the sander and it got down to the bare wood in no time. On the end-tables, I used only the sander (no Jasco) and it took a little longer to get down to bare wood. Comparing the time, I guess the Jasco did remove a LITTLE of the finish on the coffee-table. But using Jasco wasted almost two hours plus the costs of the can of Jasco, the paintbrush and the plastic spatula.
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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:56:50 -0700, mac davis

Might have, but I wouldn't count on it. I guess I've found that partially softened or partially wet finish is far worse to sand than something that is good and dry because it gums up the paper.

I was advocating the mechanical method, so I didn't toss it in, but the stuff that Sherwin Williams sells still works pretty well.
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I wasn't complaining about the advice. I was complaining about the product.
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Perhaps you should reread what you wrote both times and leave "Nailshooter" out of the equation. It really sounded like you blamed Nailshooter for the results you got.
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Nailshooter suggested using a stripper and that's what I did.
It was Jasco's product that produced the results. When a product claims it will do something -- like remove finishes in one application (it didn't say that multiple appications might be needed) -- it should that.
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snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:

Nailshooter gave you advice on specific products, which you ignored, so why did you single him out as giving advice on your decision to use another product?
R
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Premium Paint & Epoxy Remover because it claimed to:
So now you are saying that Nail shooter did not recommend the product you used?
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On 11 Jun 2006 09:51:42 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:

So now you know for next time- chemical strippers never (and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word) live up to the claims on the packages. They might have in the good ol' days, but they sure don't any more.
If you want to use them, get them on the surface as thick as possible, keep them moist however you can, and give them 4-5x the amount of time it suggests on the package to work, then clean it off with a stiff scraper- a spatula won't do the trick.
I'd put money on the card scraper by itself being the best way to go on almost any project that has flat surfaces. Chemical strippers really only shine when you are stripping detailed millwork where a scraper won't reach into the various nooks and crannies. Even in that case, it helps to scrape as much as you can first, to allow the stripper to get under the edges of the paint or finish.
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and used Jasco's

AND, you get what you pay for.
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snipped-for-privacy@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:

Well, it looks like someone has been usnig my name in vain while I was working this weekend. Where to start....
You took my advice and used Jasco and it wasted your money and time?
First dummy, I never told you to use the Jasco product. Or anything like that. I am not familiar with it, so I wouldn't recommend it. I was SPECIFIC about the brands so you could get your dimwitted self down to buy the right kind. Was Jasco on sale? Would you claim that a it would be a similar situation to use oil base paint interchangeably with latex paint on a project because they are both "paint"?
Since you had nothing to offer other than whining that it didn't work, how does anyone know what kind of stripper you used? Acid? Solvent? Thixotripic?
Worse, I even suggested that you could just sand the whole thing off. In writing. But, like a 12 year old boy that just found his ding dong, you were overjoyed you happened on to that solution all by yourself.

How creative of you. How original.
It is pointless of you to ask a question when you ignore a detailed answer and complain about the results you got. And even more pointless for someone to respond to you when you don't read or understand the language.
I just re-read my post to you. I even explained the differences in finish and how to get a good idea of what they are. Then I explained the chemical composition of most strippers. I do not believe if you followed those simple instructions on how to determine finish and correct stripper you screwed it up so badly.
Well.... wait.... maybe you did.
Robert
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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
> Well, it looks like someone has been usnig my name in vain while I was > working this weekend. Where to start.... > > You took my advice and used Jasco and it wasted your money and time? > > First dummy, I never told you to use the Jasco product. Or anything > like that. I am not familiar with it, so I wouldn't recommend it. I > was SPECIFIC about the brands so you could get your dimwitted self down > to buy the right kind. Was Jasco on sale? Would you claim that a it > would be a similar situation to use oil base paint interchangeably with > latex paint on a project because they are both "paint"?
<snip the balance of a great rant>
Careful or you might just pop a blood vessel<G>.
Lew
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snip

AAAANNNNTTTTTT....!!!!!! I already told him that he Was da MAN. Lets not go over board on praise. After all, he did twist, embellish, and totally confuse us all with all his flip floppin story.
Is it hot in SA yet? ;~)
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Leon wrote:

Yeah, but it is annoying to spend a little time to detail something out and then have someone do something different (perfectly acceptable) then blame you (perfectly unacceptable) when their attempt fails.

'bout the same as where you are I would imagine. It has been around 100, or where I am working inside a warehouse around 106 by their thermometer. To me it feels closer to about 170, maybe 180 degrees. I really hate these first few weeks of getting acclimated to the heat.
Mandatory water restrictions should be in place soon (3-5 days) since once more we are way behind on the rain. Gonna be a long, hot summer.
Robert
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