chisels

Patrick is still up to the same old tricks. I'm still on his mailing list, as even though I'm not buying a lot planes these days, I love to see the sorts of things he uncovers; it's a history lesson in its own right.

I bought my first oldtool from him back about 8 years ago. It was a type 14 #4. I hardly use it anymore (I have too many smoothers that work better than it does), but I'll never forget opening that box and disassembling the plane while pondering its history.

It was all downhill from there ... on rollerskates ... with a jetpack on my back. :-)

Hmmm ... a quick mental count puts me at about 3 dozen as well. and then there are the spokeshaves ... and saws ... and chisels ... and ...

Chuck Vance (wheeeeeeeee!!!)

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PL is doing fine last I saw him, back in Feb/March, whenever our Patina auction was. MJD was there as well. Send him your addy to get back on the list, although I suspect he's still tool hunting as Chuck pointed out. Ass for 3 dozen planes, I'm in triple digits, with lots of spokeshaves. Google for a pic of mine entitled shelf3. I've got at least 3 dozen woodies. Jetpack? Yeehaw!

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave in Fairfax

Oooops, I forgot to include the woodies. :-) But I'm not a big collector of them or anything. Probably don't have more than 12-15. :-}

To be totally honest, I've been a bit of a slacker when it comes to buying tools. I took up flyfishing again a couple of years back, so now I've got another hobby that requires large amounts of gear. (Plus, if you ff, you *have* to tie your own flies, so that requires a whole different set of stuff.)

I can't seem to find your pic. Got a url for me?

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

Possibly the frog design is the second of the four designs described here:

bad reputation. It is flexible enough that the cutter can take a nose-dive when you hit tough spot in the wood.

My guess would be that the face of the frog on which the cutter rests is not flat, or the problem with the lever cap screw causes it to bear down harder on one side of the cap iron.

I ALWAYS have that problem with wedged planes.

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fredfighter

All is forgiven. My Father FFs also. Different slopes for different folks. TMdl I don't keep a website going, quit after I took down my old BBS. I'll scrounge it up and post it over on ABPW. It won't be current, the shelf is sagging now. %-)

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave in Fairfax

I like it. :-) I've found that ff'ing is a particularly insidious slope. Not only is there all the gear and tying stuff to buy, but the places I want to fish the most require travel. In the last few years it's been the Madison River and Yellowstone Park in Moontana/Wyoming, the Crowsnest River in Canada and small streams in the western North Carolina mountains.

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it.

Let me know when it's up. I don't get the binaries groups, but can always check it out on Usenet Replayer.

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

is a type 8 as he was reading from the Walters book in his email to me, I confirmed it online:

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is a "B" casting with no maker's name anywhere besides "No 6" on the toe.

I didn't experience that when planing doug fir and its many knots but it is not a very hard wood. I kept the screws nice and tight.

Actually I cannot tell too well by looking at it, other than that it is perfectly flat. I imagined it is some misalignment of mounting to the reciever... very hard to see. But I did notice some kind of indiscernible skew there. It is like a rise that causes it at an odd angle, I wouldn't know how to fettle it because everything is much too slight.

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AAvK

Chuck, isn't your bench the one in SYP and has a thick leg vise?

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AAvK

Yep. Here's a pic:

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Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

Okay cool. That is a great bench, I love the simplicity and thickness, that SYP is incredible and I wish it could be attained out here on the west coast. My bench will be closer to "classic", I have an antique quick action iron 7x4 and I will make my own slide-frame end vise with two LV screws.

Questions if you don't mind,

What glue did you use for the top?

Are you a lefty (vise on the right)?

How well is the leg vise working for you?

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AAvK

That bench was actually just intended to be my "first" one, with the idea being that I'd make my "dream" bench sometime down the road. But I expect it will outlive me. ;-)

Titebond Extend (for the longer open time)

Yep.

It does just about everything I could ask of it. The only problem I've really noticed is that it's not great for jointing long boards. But that's partially my own fault, as I never did build a proper bench slave for it, and instead try to joint boards by supporting them with that "swiss-cheese" board that runs along the front of the bench. (It has too much flex to be optimal.)

But the vise is great for holding boards for sawing dovetails, holding my planing stop/jig, jointing short boards, holding various odd-shaped things for spokeshaving and carving, etc.

Sometimes I think it might be nice to add an end-vise for planing, but if I had to have just one, I'd stick with the leg-vise.

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

It's up go take a look. He lives in Seattle, so he goes after salmon. kinda makes it worthwhile after dealing with trout.

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave in Fairfax

All excellent info, thanks much because I need to learn.

had to have just one, I'd stick with the leg-vise.

looking at your bench and vise and words...

I thought of placing a leg vise on the 'end front corner', it could be used three different ways that way. End vise for top board clamping and in-jaw clamping, and with dogs or whatever sticking out the side of the jaw for front board clamping with a bench slave and those front dog holes... or something like that.

And 'TB II extend' is also what I thought of for my top, but it will be hard maple... don't know if it's strong enough for time in the long run because maple isn't very porous... however I will be using threaded rod. How much glue did you use just for the top?

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AAvK

Glad to help. I picked the brains of a number of folks from the Oldtools list and the wreck when I was planning my bench.

So you mean with the handle on the end of the bench? I suppose that would work OK. Just be aware that the leg and handle stick out, so they can tend to get in the way when you're not using them.

FWIW, I've found that unless I'm planing long boards, the leg vise doesn't come into play for holding boards on top of my bench. I've got a couple of planing stops (really nothing more than some 1/4" ply cut into strips) that I clamp to the benchtop using clamps that I've converted to holddowns (take a standard Jorgy 6" clamp and file the rivet at the bottom flat and you can remove the clamp head when needed). I run them through dogholes to secure the stops.

For thicker boards I use a pair of Veritas Wonderdogs in my dogholes. (A good reason to have round dogholes, but let's not get

*that* discussion started. ;-)

IIRC, it was a bit less than a 16 oz. bottle.

FWIW, when I did my glueup I did a full test run (with clamps), numbered the boards, and clamped it up adding only one board at a time. (I.e., clamp, let dry overnight, and add one more the next day.) I was *very* careful to orient all the boards with the grain running the same direction (for ease of handplaning later), and to get one surface as close to dead flat as I could at the point of glueup. This made final flattening of the top a lot easier.

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

Jeezus ... you've got it bad, man. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were a collector. ;-)

I'v never had the honor of fishing for salmon. But I can't imagine it's any more fun than fishing for wild trout in the mountains of North Carolina. That's where I went in early July, and while I've caught bigger fish elsewhere, I've never fished in such pretty surroundings:

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Chuck Vance (yes, that was a gloat)

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Conan The Librarian

Born and raised and live in North Carolina.

I live on the ocean and always made fun of the "buggy whip" crowd fishing in the "ditch", but it really is beautiful on those little trout streams.

I have friends that will drive for six hours to go catch those tiny brown trout and they love it.

C> I'v never had the honor of fishing for salmon. But I can't imagine

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Pat Barber

But I'm feeling MUCH better now. %-)

Very pretty. The UP is pretty too. First time I took my ex fishing she caught a 26 3/4" large mouth. Had to let it go though, out of season. That may have contributed to my divorce. 5-( Out in wolf Lake, they had HUGE trout, immense, bass sized. Hand fishing for tuna off a rubber ducky out in Guam was fun to. BIG fish. Can you say sashimi?

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave in Fairfax

They say the first step to recovery is realizing you have a problem. ;-)

That's a nice fish. Is there any truth to the rumor that they grow that big because they feed on the Yooper dragonfl ... er ... mosquitoes? :-)

I'm guessing you weren't just vacationing in Guam, eh?

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

I can relate. I flew for over three hours and then drove for another couple just to get to the cabin where I was staying on Big Snowbird. Then the hike was another hour and a half to get to the spot where I caught that brown.

And I'm dying to go back. :-)

Chuck Vance

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Conan The Librarian

Strangely enough I was in the employ of our Navy. %-) Got to see the world and everything. The only problem with the bass catching the skeetrs is sometimes the fish goes up and doesn't come back down. It is a pleasurable addiction, and less costly than some. Least as long as I remain a bottom feeder. Unless I hit the lotto big, I don't see that as changing anytime soon. %-(

Dave in Fairfax

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