Wiki: Chrome

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NT

There are 3 varieties of chrome plate:

  • chrome plated plastic - prone to peeling off
  • chrome plated steel - prone to rusting & peeling in bathrooms etc
  • chrome plated brass - long term durable

==Soldering== Chrome is not solderable. When soldering chrome plated pipe, scrape the chrome off where necessary.

==Cleaning== A cloth, cream cleaner & hot water remove dirt, a plastic scourer removes limescale. Avoid steel scourers, these are harder than the chrome. Avoid acids.

==See Also==

  • [[Special:Allpages|Wiki Article Index]]
  • [[Special:Categories|Wiki Subject Categories]]

[[Category:Bathrooms]] [[Category:Cleaning]] [[Category:Plumbing]] [[Category:Metal]]

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NT
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Chromium plating is not limited to those substrates: stainless steel, zinc alloy (mazak) castings, brass, copper and steel are all possible and there may be others I don't know about. Plastic is slightly different, as that is vacuum deposited, rather than electroplated. There is also hard chromium plating, which is applied as a wearing surface to things like plastic injection moulds.

The following applies to electroplating for decorative or corrosion protection:

The finish may be mirror finish, bright, dull, satin, pearl or black.

The durability does not depend upon the substrate, but upon the specifications of the plating.

Electro-plating for corrosion protection is the subject of BS EN 12540:

2000, which specifies four different service conditions: 1 - Indoors in warm, dry conditions 2 - Indoors where condensation may occur 3 - Service outdoors in temperate conditions 4 - Service outdoors in severe corrosive conditions. e.g. a marine environment.

So, although a service condition 1 plated article may well be prone to rusting or peeling in a bathroom, one plated to service condition 4 would not.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

There seems to be more titles, links and other stuff than actual content!

What about chromed copper pipe?

Reply to
John Rumm

Are you ok with me or you putting all that into the article? You clearly know more about it than I do!

NT

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NT

Avoiding Hexavalent chromium poisoning during welding of chrome alloys?

Reply to
Adrian C

Now there is a spectacularly dull document ;-)

(superseded by BS EN ISO 1456:2009 apparently)

Reply to
John Rumm

Thank you for the correction. I haven't had to have anything chromium plated since 2005, so I've not been keeping up to date.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

I used to have to specify chromium plating for things we made. Use as much or as little as you want, although see John's post for a more up to date British Standard number.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

Please tell us :) I certainly dont know.

NT

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NT

If I may quote John too, we will have a total rewrite so far:

NT

Chrome

This article is about chrome electroplating for decorative or corrosion protection. There is also hard chromium plating, which is applied as a wearing surface to things like plastic injection moulds.

Chrome plate comes in several finishes: mirror finish, bright, dull, satin, pearl or black.

Substrates used are: steel, brass, stainless steel, zinc alloy (mazak) castings, brass, copper and steel are all possible and there may be others I don't know about. Plastic is slightly different, as that is vacuum deposited, rather than electroplated.

=3D=3DDurability=3D=3D The durability does not depend upon the substrate, but upon the specifications of the plating.

Electro-plating for corrosion protection is the subject of BS EN

12540: 2000, which specifies four different service conditions:

1 - Indoors in warm, dry conditions

2 - Indoors where condensation may occur 3 - Service outdoors in temperate conditions 4 - Service outdoors in severe corrosive conditions. e.g. a marine environment.

So, although a service condition 1 plated article may well be prone to rusting or peeling in a bathroom, one plated to service condition 4 would not.

=3D=3DSoldering=3D=3D Chrome is not solderable. When soldering chrome plated pipe, scrape the chrome off where necessary.

=3D=3DCleaning=3D=3D A cloth, cream cleaner & hot water remove dirt, a plastic scourer removes limescale. Avoid steel scourers, these are harder than the chrome. Avoid acids.

=3D=3DStandards=3D=3D Electro-plating for corrosion protection is the subject of BS EN

12540:2000. Now there is a spectacularly dull document ;-). It was superseded by BS EN ISO 1456:2009 apparently.

=3D=3DSee Also=3D=3D

  • [[Special:Allpages|Wiki Article Index]]
  • [[Special:Categories|Wiki Subject Categories]]

[[Category:Bathrooms]] [[Category:Cleaning]] [[Category:Plumbing]] [[Category:Metal]]

Reply to
NT

Aside from being a few pages longer, its equally content free!

Reply to
John Rumm

Nor do I (yet). That was me nonchalantly googling Chromium and Julia Roberts. Should have stuck to just googling at Julia Roberts. ;-)

So some links ...

Chromium is found in various forms and compounds, some beneficial to health and some not.

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Chromium's use as a rust treatment, famously caused this incident.

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Chromium is a carcinogen a hazard to those working stainless steel,

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as an additive in Cement also causes skin dermatitis.

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H&S advice on handling Chromium compounds

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where to buy to swallow, as some forms are also good for ya....

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Adrian C

I'm confused, is Julia Roberts interchangeable with Chromium?

Julia Roberts is found in various forms and compounds, some beneficial to health and some not.

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Julia Roberts's use as a rust treatment, famously caused this incident.

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Julia Roberts is a carcinogen a hazard to those working stainless steel,

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H&S advice on handling Julia Roberts

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Halmyre

Any tips on how to? Took me ages.

Also it's unsuitable for pushfit connections - too hard for the gripping teeth to grip reliably, which can result in the fitting being pushed off under pressure sometime later.

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Andrew Gabriel

Heat with a blow lamp and plunge into hydrochloric acid. That will strip it back to the base metal fairly rapidly. It is, obviously, a somewhat hazardous process, so wear suitable protective equipment while doing so and it is not a method I would include in the Wiki.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

Triple plated chrome as used on to alloys with varying success...

is copper electroplate, followed by nickel silver followed by chrome.

someat to do with electrolytic effects think?

Varying success means some bases look ok and then flake and peel.

Home chroming , despite what some websites will try and sell you , is not a viable excercise.

Cheers Adam

Reply to
Adam Aglionby

How concentrated out of interest? Would brick acid do it? Patio cleaner?

Yup, probably wise not to ;-)

Reply to
John Rumm

I always had 36% HCL to hand, as we used that in the flux we made for soldering stainless steel - half Baker's fluid No 1, one quarter 36% HCL and one quarter water. I never tested it at lower concentrations, although the flux would also strip chrome if you were not careful where it went.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

On 27/02/2012 02:17, Adam Aglionby wrote: ...

It is about adhesion. Copper will plate well onto many things. Nickel will plate well onto copper. Chrome will plate well onto nickel. A nickel undercoat (or up to three depending upon specification) also gives a white metal under the chrome, which improves the looks.

Colin Bignell

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Nightjar

I've had success grinding it off by gently rotating the pipe against a grinding wheel, or ideally something like a Tormek water-cooled wheel to get a better finish. Carfeul though that you only take the chrome of and don't start to grind down the copper as well.

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Andrew May

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