Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?


I need to put up some beautiful American Black Walnut shelves ( I got the name of S.L hardwoods through this NG and they did a great job). Now I need to put em up, with no supports showing.... The shelves are 400 mm wide, 200 mm deep and 40mm thick. I am worried about the accuracy of my drilling and came across this post from a couple of years ago.... (for the whole post go to http://tinyurl.com/ry4n ) On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:34:31 -0000, "Jeff S"

Yes - you need:
1. A big masonry bit 2. Several lengths of studding (AKA threaded steel rod) 3. some polyester resin 4. A drill stand if you don't think you can drill into the edge of the mantlepiece accurately hands-free with your black-and-decker :-)
See an example of how to fix the studding into the wall in current Screwfix catalog on page 17. Use the thickest stud possible as the thinner the stud the more flexible it will be and your mantlepiece will move up and down.
Haven't done this yet - but doing so very soon with some shelving so all other advice much appreciated :-)
A.I don't have a screwfix catalog and speaking to the tech support there was not much help.My question is, willl this work and where can I buy the resin, I just had a look in a B&q Warehouse and I couldn't work out what the product (polyester resin) was. does anyone have a brand name? Or any more advice?Cheers,Ashley
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Ashley wrote:

look in a B&q Warehouse and I couldn't work out what the product (polyester resin) was. does anyone have a brand name? Or any more advice?

The trade call these 'chemical anchors' - try a google search. I guess your problem will be finding a retail source for a small amount. There are a number of polyester resins readily available eg car body filler and the resins used for fibreglass work sold by boating specialists but you will need something of the right viscosity and an injection method to get the resin to the bottom of the hole cleanly and quickly. You will also need a way of hold your shelf plumb as the resin cures - there will be no shifting it once it has set. These resins will have a pot life measured in low 10s of minutes, accuracy and speed will be vital as will practice on some scrap before doing the real job.
This is a potentially high risk- high payback method for DIY
Good luck
Bob
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Ashley wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I need to put up some beautiful American Black Walnut shelves ( I got the name of S.L hardwoods through this NG and they did a great job). Now I need to put em up, with no supports showing....</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The shelves are 400 mm wide, 200 mm deep and 40mm thick. I am worried about the accuracy of my drilling and came across this post from a couple of years ago.... (for the whole post go to</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ry4n ">http://tinyurl.com/ry4n </a> )</font></font> <pre><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=-1>On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:34:31 -0000, "Jeff S"

Yes - you need:
1. A big masonry bit 2.&nbsp; Several lengths of studding (AKA threaded steel rod) 3. some polyester resin 4. A drill stand if you don't think you can drill into the edge of the mantlepiece accurately hands-free with your black-and-decker :-)
See an example of how to fix the studding into the wall in current Screwfix catalog on page 17. Use the thickest stud possible as&nbsp; the thinner the stud the more flexible it will be and your mantlepiece will move up and down.
Haven't done this yet - but doing so very soon with some shelving so all other advice much appreciated :-)
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<pre><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cheers,</font></font></pre><pre><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Ashley</font></font></pre> </blockquote> &nbsp;The trade call these 'chemical anchors' - try a google search. I guess your problem will be finding a retail source for a small amount. There are a number of polyester resins readily available eg car body filler and the resins used for fibreglass work sold by boating specialists but you will need something of the right viscosity and an injection method to get the resin to the bottom of the hole cleanly and quickly. You will also need a way of hold your shelf plumb as the resin cures - there will be no shifting it once it has set. These resins will have a pot life measured in low 10s of minutes, accuracy and speed will be vital as will practice on some scrap before doing the real job. <p>This is a potentially high risk- high payback method for DIY <p>Good luck <p>Bob <br>&nbsp;</html>
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As it happens, Screwfix do sell small quantities: they call the size which goes into an ordinary sealant gun product number 16180, 150ml for a cute 5.35quid. Few d-i-y'ers will find it hard to make up other Might Come In Usefuls to get past the 45quid small-order surcharge... in the case of the Original Poster, f'r instance, they'll sell you studding in metre lengths or precut bits...
Stefek "no commission from Screwfix or RS"
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On 22 Oct 2003 23:27:37 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@hp.com wrote:

No they dont, you need item number 16539 @ 22.49.
Heres a couple of tips for using this resin.
1) Make sure you waste about a nozzle full of resin each time, this ensures that the resin is getting enough hardener ( you will see it change colour when its mixed correctly ) , otherwise it wont harden.
2) Make sure you clean all drill holes out, a bike pump will do.
3) Sometimes the end of the cartridge will get a resin mix that will harden, so remember to give it a poke to check before you screw a new nozzle on.
4) Grind the side of one end of the stud flat (ish), this helps to prevent the stud spinning if you need to use a nut fixing.
5) Spin the studs as you insert them.
6) At this time of year i like to use a heat gun on the studs (after they have been inserted) to get the hardening speeded up.
7) Dont forget you can only use the nozzles once, so drill all your holes ready :-)
HTH

regards Tim
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I think you is mistook:
"150ml cartridge uses standard 310ml applicator gun"
"380ml requires special applicator gun"
The quoted code was for a 150ml cart.
or is the site/catalogue wrong.
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Ah...my fault, i thought it was 380ml code, apologies to stefek :)

No, its me :-7
regards Tim
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No worries, just send me your next 40squids of Screwfix vouchers ;-)
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wrote:

Off to the side with the topic:
I can't pick up Tim's message in Mailgate or Google. Is that because the poster is using a tv service or something?
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:38:47 +0000 (UTC), "Michael Mcneil"

Dont know what Mailgate is, but Google doesn't archive messages that have X-No-Archive: Yes in the headers.
regards Tim
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:38:47 +0000 (UTC), "Michael Mcneil"

So sorry Michael me ode fruit :-) Try this one
< Re-post without "X-No-Archive: Yes" set, for Michael >
Dont know what Mailgate is, but Google doesn't archive messages that have X-No-Archive: Yes in the headers.
regards Tim
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Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Ashley Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Bob Minchin Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, stefek.zaba Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Tim Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, fred Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Tim Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, stefek.zaba Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Michael Mcneil Re: Shelving and fixings -polyester resin?, Tim
I hate to mention this Timothy old boy but since I can't open your post and in fact it doesn't even appear in Google Groups I mangled the link to make it fit the standard frame:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&newwindow1&safe=off&threadm )296694263a457e75e3ce8af94ac16d.45219%40mygate. mailgate.org&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3DUTF -8%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26group%3Duk.d-i-y
I err...<ahem>!... well...you know....<ahem>!
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:27:51 +0000 (UTC), "Michael Mcneil"

Its better to shrink a long link like that @ www.tinyurl.com
Like this : http://tinyurl.com/s96t

I know, but i dont know, well you know ;-)
regards Tim
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Which is all well and good if you can rely on their server to keep it running ad indefinitum. Not that I really expect anyone to be searching for my advice in the dim and distant future.

No I must admit I am afraid that I don't.. What server were you posting through that the previous messages were not turning up?
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