OT: Recession Coming?

[mcp]

The ones that closed were small, uneconomic and mined out. Large modern "super pits" were opened to replace them. Thatcher closed the modern pits and no new ones were opened.

[Tim Streater]

They were still, nonetheless, uneconomic.

[harry]

A tale of lies and deception.

[Huge]

Garbage. Harold Wilson closed more pits than Thatcher.

Besides, if an industry is uneconomic, what precisely should be done with it?

[The Todal]

Socialist don't like facts.

[Another John]

An interesting question.

Presumably you don't use "Government money" to support it, so what do you do? Close it down? Sell it off to some foreign billionaire Del-Boy type who collects old industries? Pretty good idea that one: you get relieved of the problem, you make a large amount of cash as well, and you can *boast* about how you have preserved jobs and industry in the UK.

Hmm. But what about the people you put out of work when you close down a mine, not to mention the communities that were built up over 100 years around those industries? And what about the people that Del-Boy puts out of work when the time comes for him to off-load dodgy looking investments?

In both cases you get lumbered with thousands of people, and their dependants, who *were* productive tax-payers, happily moaning about their PAYE every week, who have been changed into Benefits dependants, and who only WISH that they had some PAYE to complain about. And their communities become, in a new sense of the expression, rotten boroughs.

And (whoops!) neither do you have any industries left in which they can find other jobs.

So yes: an interesting question.

Perhaps the government will set up cycle factories so that all these whingeing benefits dependants can get on bikes and ride across the country to find another job. **Surely** there are jobs around? As rewarding, in both ways, as (for example) being a miner, or a steel worker??

Yes indeed Huge - an interesting question.

Here's another one: what does "uneconomic" mean?

John

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Depends on the industry. So many in this country are called uneconomic and closed, while they remain viable in other similar countries, in the long term.

[harry]

The problem lies with the Chinese who are subsidising their steel. We should put an import tax on it until they desist. More socialist monkeying about for political reasons.

[Nightjar]

Is that you trying to change the subject or simply demonstrating that you don't understand how an economy is measured?

BTW, the 'national' debt of the EU as a whole is better than that of the UK.

[Capitol]

That's because we're paying the EU! and have had the last 10 years of liblabcon government.

[newshound]

Indeed. Not since Henry VIII. If not Longshanks....

[jgh]

That's exactly what I encounter.

"You've been using WotSit 1.26? Sorry, we need somebody with experience of using WotSit 1.29". "You've experience with embedded medical control systems, sorry, we're looking for somebody with embedded automotive control systems experience". "Sorry, we're looking for somebody with experience of working in a dead- end burger job for this dead-end burger bar job". "We need somebody with experience of using Office 2015"

jgh

[jgh]

Overkill. I'd use a variable resistor to set the level and a light dependent resistor to check the brownness of the toast. The light from the heating elements would provide the ambient light for the brownness detector.

jgh

[Clive George]

How would you keep the light dependent resistor clean?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Right. And we're the only country that pays for the EU?

[mcp]

Can't you read? Where did I say he didn't?

[Another John]

Er -- I thought that that was part of the whole idea?

When you yourself join the local golf club (whatever) do you tell the secretary, "Yes I'd like to join, and have use of all your facilities, and all the other side benefits of being in the Golf Club, but I don't want to pay your fees -- they're bloody ridiculous mate!" -- ?

John

[charles]

[jgh]

How does the chap with the 4-bit processor keep his detector clean?

jgh

[Nightjar]

Germany pays a lot more to the EU and does much better on its national debt.