OT: Recession Coming?

[harry]

Heh It was a long time ago. They weren't complaining then.

We also learned basic woodwork and metalwork.

[harry]

They are going bust because we no longer have our own iron ore or suitable local coal. That and the Chinese work for next to nothing.

[harry]

The Euro economy has contracted by 20% in the last ten years. And still falling. It's like being chained to a corpse

[Nightjar]

Wrong, as usual, Harry. The economy of the EU as a whole grew by 9.5% from 2005 to 2014. Only Greece (-18%), Italy, (-4.6%) and Portugal (-1.8%) did not see their economies grow in that period.

Even Greece's economy is growing at the moment.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

But both of those industries effectively closed by your pals the Tories. As are the high energy prices charged to industry.

But then you think only socialists brain dead. So that makes you a socialist.

[Capitol]

I see that your Socialist defective memory is in action again. The high energy prices are a result of actions by the Socialist government of Brown and Bliar. Compounded by the idiot Liberals in the coalition government.

[dennis]

Being in the EU doesn't stop you exporting to the rest of the world. It does make it easier to export to Europe.

[Tim Streater]

It stops you making trade agreements with the rest of the world.

That is the free markets aspect that we signed up to. Not the "ever closer union" c*ck that we didn't sign up to.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

So wonder why exactly the Chinese president is bothering to come here?

[Tim Streater]

He wants to buy Man U.

[78lp]

No it does not, most obviously with the arms trade with the middle east etc.

Both were signed up to, and other stuff too like the free movement of EU citizens within the EU.

[Tim Streater]

Trade agreements refer to tariffs and the like, not to specific sales contracts. The UK (and all other EU members) cannot make trade agreements any longer, they have to be done by the EU (such as this TTIP deal with the US that is going through).

So the UK, unlike Iceland, can't make a trade agreement with China (although specific contracts will be signed in London when Chairman Mao or whatever his name is gets here next week).

[Cursitor Doom]

Another shed-load of redundancies announced today. Globalism to blame, I'd say. Neither Tories nor Labour stood up to the globalists. Both parties sold us down the river.

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:17:07 +0100, Nightjar Even Greece's economy is growing at the moment.

Yeah, because Greece is the chief beneficiary of mass immigration. :->

[Cursitor Doom]

Because we're the least-worst affected country in the EU disaster zone.

[The Todal]

Maybe he was after a polish sausage sandwich.

[78lp]

Great, that's how capitalism works.

Nope, just the basic facts of life. You lot can never hope to compete with the best of the coal miners and steel producers now. You don?t even use enough steel anymore to do that now.

Not even possible to do that except with immense tariff barriers and all those do is perpetuate grossly inefficient industry that is WAY past its useby date like so much of your car industry was.

They had enough of a clue to notice those industrys were WAY past their useby date there.

[78lp]

Germany leaves you lot for dead.

[harry]

Another socialist myth. Most coal mines closed during Harold Wilson era. They were uneconomic. As are the steel works. Socialists are full of myths. Or lies. The small part of their brain that is functioning that is.

The Chinese have lots of coal. Most of the iron ore comes from Oz. And a near slave work force.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

All mines have a life.

Another word you bandy about without a clue what it means

And you've done a full analysis of the situation?

Given the rubbish you post just about every day, it's rather obvious you don't understand myths and lies.

Just for once, try thinking more than a minute ahead. After all you have one of those large and powerful brains, don't you?