It must get to a stage where any organisation that withholds a number will not be able to get through to a significant number of people (customers) who associate withheld numbers with those who junk call us.
In message , Andrew Gabriel wrote
Recently I'm getting 5 to 10 calls a day that are identified as International. I'm not sure that these would be blocked nor would they be stopped by the TPS or any other British organisation.
snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (mike) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:
For the premium rate operator misbehaving, try:
Probably just as useless most of the time but they did hit the SMS 'missed calls' mob recently.
Before we registered with TPS we were getting Double glazing calls at least once a week .. now hardly anything for months?
To any that do get though I tell them I'm a bit busy and can I have their home number so I can ring them back in the evening.
They say 'Oh we can't do that'
I ask "Why not"
They say ' Well we would get calls at home in the evening when we were having our tea ... ah ... " ;-)
T i m
Three or four years ago I used come home and find several unknown calls on my caller id, and other occasion where my answering machine picked up no message. Eventually I found out that it was O2 (Cellnet at the time). I asked them to stop. they didn't. I asked them to stop a further 2 times. They didn't. So I told them I had a freephone number for them and I would spend my evenings with one finger on the redial button while I did other stuff on the pc. I had 2 phone lines so it wouldn't be a problem for me. She woman said 'You can't do that......' to which I replied yes I can and try and stop me. And I did. Just constantly dialled and said nothing until they disconnected. On one call the girl didn't disconnect the line for some reason and I listened in to a conversation she was having with her workmates. She said 'I've only had 11 calls all evening and they've all been complaints'. I eventually spoke when I'd finished for the night and told them who had been responsible and why, and to expect it again. I never received another call from them.
MJ
Miss as in ignore the ring phone or let the TAM take it?
Not "miss" as in you have anonymous call barring in place, 'cause they can't ring you back succesfully...
Ditto here As royal mail now seem determined to deliver more circulars than actual mail, anything that I know the postman has delivered gets put into the pillar box with the collection of reply paid envelopes. The last lot included a dating agency, two election adverts and a Robert Dyson catalogue!
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My mum used to have that on her NTL line due to problems she was having, but ended up having it taken off as she turned up for a doctors appointment and was told by the receptionist that it was cancelled - they tried to phone her but couldn't get through. The receptionist advised her to take it off because if she phoned for a doctor in emergency and the doctor couldn't phone her back (the calls get put to an agency), the doctor wouldn't call.
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Some of the companies get around the barred no IDs by presenting a phone number that they never answer if somebody rings it!
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Yes. Just about all my 'cold calls' seem now to emanate from India etc judging by the delay on the line and the accent of the operator. Wonder how well they understand 'awa 'n bile yer heed'...
"Toby" wrote | Lee wrote: | > I don't see why people/companies/agencies can't use | > presentation numbers, if anonymity is so important. | Trouble is they have to be geographic numbers connected | with the outbound trunk.
That's the point of a /presentation/ number - it's NOT necessarily connected with the outbound trunk.
| Organisations prefer 0870, 0845 etc. due to the revenue/flexibility | benefits.
Both of which can be used as presentation numbers, provided the number is owned by the person wishing to use it as such.
Owain
We have been in our new house for about a year and we recently started getting phone spam, so I registered with the TPS.
However, I did have an interesting call before then... One of my normal tricks is to tell them that I am interested, but its a bad time as I am in the middle of something but if they hold on a minute or two I will come back to the phone. They hang up after a while, but as I generally make lots of "oh I'm so glad you rang because I have just inherited some money and was hoping to get double glazing/a conservatory/a new kitchen/etc." I would love to be able to see how difficult the decision is for them. Anyway... this guy phoned recently and I told him to hold on, I moved the phone out into the hall and went back to watching the video I was in the middle of. About 15 minutes later I went back out and picked up the phone... I said hello, and the guy was still there!!! I said sorry about the delay but I am nearly finished... When I came back 5 minutes later he had given up. But just think - in that 15 minutes I probably saved 20 people from getting his calls!!! Also I assume that the callers are on commission, so suddenly it's him that has the bad evening!!!
I have even arranged for sales people to call around. One company came around 3 times and found me not home before giving up (but then I did spin them all sorts of lies to keep them coming back... Yes, I'm so sorry that I missed your salesman, but I had to rush to the hospital as my mum had been taken ill.... No, I definately said I would be in "Until
8pm", not "from 8pm" etc...)
Does anyone know whether the "no such number" tones here work on UK 'phones:
I was going to try it, but then I signed up on the preference services which after a month or two to get going has dramatically reduced (surprise, surprise, the e-mail spam one doesn't work). All I get now phone-wise is a local health club which probably hasn't heard of TPS.
Chris
Actually, it's probably the cruise you would have won. No cash alternative; you must be prepared to get yourself to the port where your holiday begins, at 2am on a Tuesday; you will be sharing a cabin (below the plimsoll line) with 3 strangers and there is no lock on the door; meals are not included and you can select from 1 of 1 available weeks in the off-season.
One possible solution may be a device which answers all no witheld/unavailable calls with a recorded request for the caller to type a pre-arranged code on their dialer. A recognised code would cause the phone to ring and be answered in the normal way.No code or an unrecognised code would dump the call to an answering machine or simply hang up. Has anyone heard of such a system ?
John
Oh ye of little Faith ! The telephone preference service works just fine. Don't knock it till you have tried it. I joined up a long time ago and after the first few weeks have only had a very few calls. None of these have been the computer generated kind which leave you with dead line. The odd call that does get through, only about one per month or less, I deal with like this. " What is the name and address of your company" followed by " I expect you have heard of the Telephone Preference Service, well I am going to report you to them as soon as I put the phone down". There is usually a string of apologies before I cut them off.
So you are Ex directory and still get spam calls . What a shame, I am not Ex directory and get virtually none. In fact I find people who do not have a genuine professional reason for being Ex directory a pain in the proverbial.
There are several methods you could use to screen your calls. Caller ID is one, you only have to pickup the calls you want. Or there is the excellent free 1571 answering service. You could even switch off your ringer and dial
1571 to pick up messages from time to time.Richard.
An urban legend promoted by the telcos that object to the loss of revenue. There is always a way for them to get round ACR if they want / need to.
Quite.
Not true.
Any of these numbers can be and have been seen presented here.
An urban legend that definately had some roots in the real world.
Why should a busy A&E department have to jump through hoops to contact the next of kin? It just reflects how badly thought through the implications of CLID and ACR that followed were.
In message , Dave Liquorice wrote
Yep, I agree. Why does the National Health service employ so many managers incapable of organising the release of the calling phone number on their switch-boards? The phone number of a hospital doesn't have to be kept secret!
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