Is it legal to DIY house wiring?

[Andy Burns]

Yo're right, it should be presented as 023 9261 5142

Not to his company, and it probably doesn't even in the 02392 area either!

[Andy Burns]

You're right, it should be presented as 023 9261 5142

Not to his company, and it probably doesn't even when dialled from the

02392 'area' ...

[Lurch]

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:48:26 -0000, "Owain" strung together this:

Erm, I didn't actually.

Yep, the area code is 023. Some people get confused with area codes.

[Morten]

In my area 01376 I can dial the last six numbers directly, to dial the local PizzaHut I dial 528 263 and gets connected straight away, it doesn't work on the last 3 only though :-)

/Morten

Who just revealed that he frequents the Pizza Hut in Braintree, Essex and has their number on quick call :-)

[Owain]

"Morten" wrote | > | Tel [phone] | > I thought all numbers in 02x were three-digit code and eight-digit local | > number? Does dialling 615142 when in the 02393 'area' actually get you a | > connection? | In my area 01376 I can dial the last six numbers directly, to dial the local | PizzaHut I dial 528 263 and gets connected straight away, it doesn't work on | the last 3 only though :-)

That is because you have a six-digit local number. It wouldn't work if you had your number shown as 013765 28263

| Who just revealed that he frequents the Pizza Hut in Braintree, Essex and | has their number on quick call :-)

Speed dial is the greatest food preparation device invented.

Owain

[1] All apart from the few remaining 5-digit local numbers which will be made up to 6-digits 'real soon now'

[Andy Burns]

Well yes, that's correct dialing within an area code, your area code isn't 013 it is 01376, the OP has an area code of 023 but incorrectly shows it as 02393 ...

[raden]

In message , Morten writes

How sad is that?

[Timothy Murphy]

Apologies if this has been explained before, but what exactly constitutes "house wiring"? (I'm not affected by the law, but am interested in its ramifications.)

Suppose I add a spur to a power socket? Or replace a ceiling rose? Do these count? Or is it just a major rewiring, involving new ring circuits?

[Andy Burns]

If not in kitchen/bathroom you're still allowed to do this type of work, subject to comptency and regs e.g. the spur must feed direct from the ring or from an already fused spur.

Essentially yes.

See the documents from the ODPM website, they're fairly readable ...

[Ian White]

Yes, do. The ONLY authoritative source about Part P, is Part P itself, including all amendments to date.

Original:

(tnx, Andy): ODPM are too idle to produce a version that includes the most recent amendments, so there's another DIY job for us to do...

Much as we'd all like to try, any attempts to summarise or rationalise the actual content of Part P into a newsgroup message are doomed to fail. So please, let's all download it, and then talk about what it

*actually* says.

[John Rumm]

What even better than the old Washing, Ironing, Food, Etc. ?

(ducks and runs for cover)

[raden]

Crispy duck ?

[Mike]

Ah, the only way to get away from Prescott and Part P !!!!

Mind you, C4's "A Place in the Sun special" tonight looked quite inviting if Tony's brigade get back in next May

[Timothy Murphy]

Thanks for the pointers.

I didn't find the first document too easy to plumb. It seemed to me a bit diffuse to be the basis for legislation. I found the second, short, document much clearer - by saying what _was_ allowed it made pretty clear what was not allowed.

I wonder if work by unqualified electricians is a significant source of accidents? I would not have thought most "handymen" would attempt major electrical work unless they knew what they were doing.

The only really dangerous work I've ever come across was actually done by professional electricians. (They connected the live and earth wires the wrong way round at some point.)

[Andy Burns]

I think the actual legislation enables part P to be implemented as a statutory instrument, so part P itself isn't in legalese, it would be

*really* difficult to read then ...

[bof]

In message , Ian White writes

other pointers?

MTIA

[Andy Wade]

From here there are links to three different versions of it, one PDF and one MS Word at the top of the page and another PDF at the bottom.

HTH

[bof]

It does, thanks.

This is the direct link:

[Ian White]

That nice Mr Prescott seems to have changed it:

(all one line, of course)

The main amendments are to Table 1: Work that need not be notified to building control bodies; and to Table 2: Special locations and installations... both of which have significant effects on DIY.

Thanks again to Andy Wade for posting that the original Approved Document P had been amended.