|On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:30:28 +0000, Dave Fawthrop | wrote: | |>On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:32:45 +0000, snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid wrote: |>
|>|On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:17:04 +0000, Andy Hall |>|wrote: |>| |>|>On 2007-01-11 17:12:36 +0000, "The Medway Handyman" |>|> said: |>|>
|>|>> Hi All |>|>> |>|>> Was back up the local hospital today to get the wound checked out (it's fine). |>|>> |>|>> League of Friends tea bar was covered on notices; |>|>> |>|>> " Please DO NOT remove the plastic lids from hot beverages. This is a |>|>> Health & Safety Directive." |>|>> |>|>> The mind boggles........................ |>|>
|>|>This is because you would probably contract some horrible lurgy. |>|>
|>|One of the problems that tea bars and coffee shops run by volunteers |>|have is with H&S and environmental health. |>| |>|The volunteer organisations do not have access to expert advice or a |>|well informed person who can challenge and negotiate the often OT |>|rules or procedures that they are told they must comply with, so they |>|just give in. |>| |>|I have had first hand experience of this with a very large volunteer |>|run coffee shop at my then local hospital; the food and beverage |>|provided were gradually reduced by rulings from the local |>|environmental health office. The commercial organisations providing |>|similar services in the same hospital didnt seem to suffer tho' !! |>
|>Then I suggest that someone in that organization learns a little about |>whatever they are doing. For years I have been in charge of the Food |>Hygiene bits of a Soup Run. I got myself an Intermediate Food Hygiene |>Certificate, at the massive cost of GBP46 plus about 8 evenings, and argue |>the toss with the EHOs. We have made *no* substantial changes to what we |>do, and the last inspection was absolutely clear. | |Its not so much someone having the qualifications - they did - but |having the energy, confidence and ability to do the necessary research |including reading the rules in detail to challenge EHOs. | |I'm glad to hear you suceeded - BUT the fact that you read let alone |post regularly on newsgroups means you have the above qualities ! | |Many people (except newsgroup readers) accept whatever an |official/inspector tells them as accurate. mandatory and |non-negotiable.
Shame really, EHOs have told me things which were absolutely wrong, quite apart from the things which could be cured by minor adjustments.