We are having trouble finding a plumber to install a combi boiler for us. My husband is quite confident that he could do the job himself but obviously it has to have a certificate from a CORGI registerd plumber. Do you know if it is possible or legal for my husband to do the work and a plumber come in and inspect it and pass it or would a plumber be reluctant to do this? Thanks
It's perfectly legal. How easy it is to get a CORGI to certify someone else's work, I don't know. I guess that the CORGI would want to do the gas installation and commissioning himself - leaving the physical installation and the water side to your husband.
If he does it himself he doesn't need to be CORGI registered. The law says he needs to "competent. What he could do is fit the boiler, ask questions here first, and then get a "landlords" certificate as he is thinking of renting out. This will clear him. CORGI men do not like to check DIYers work and this is a way around this.
How many bathroom, showers, etc? Combi's are arted on "flowrate" of hot water, so don't undersize.
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I had the same problem getting a plumber to fit ours - I wanted to do all the plumbing and just get a corgi guy in to do the boiler.
I'm sure your husband could do this himself as it is a basically easy job as long as you follow the regs about location etc.. I fitted my own boiler but got a corgi guy in to connect up the gas and check it out. It has not been officially commissioned but I have since got a landlords certificate which shows the boiler is safe.
For your insurance you will probably need to have an installation certificate from a corgi bloke - it's doubtful you will find one to just come in and commission it for you.
As far as the legality goes I think you must be 'competent' to work on gas but there is no definition of what 'competent' is. To be paid for work you must be corgi registered, but I think there are many diy-ers in this newsgroup who have fitted their own boilers.
Regards
Earl
There is nothing in law to say CORGI has to get involved at all. The relevant gas legislation just says "a competant person", if it's for domestic installation, and not done for gain. However, the insurance/mortgage/landlord/... may require CORGI testing.
Check the minimum pressure it will work at, and the minimum pressure your water company is intendeding to provide in the future. Anglian Water circulated a warning with my last bill saying that if you intend to fit a combi, it must be suitable for working down to 0.75 bar. I presume they are planning on following Thames Water and dropping mains pressures to meet their leak targets.
We have had this discussion before. Whilst the term competent is open to clarification. There is a spectrum of opinion: from those who would say the only way to prove competance would be to have the certification that a registered fitter has: to those who say that carefully following every instruction in the book should be good enough together with enough experience of general plumbing and othe skills.
The Gas Regs are clear that Landlords safety records may only be done by registered fitters. That's the beginning and end of it IMHO.
As of 1/4/5 there is now a requirement to notify building control about exchanging a boiler. This is the same restriction as Part P on the electrics (which also are relevant if the installation is in a kitchen or bathroom).
Most manufacturers probably won't honour the guarantee if push comes to shove unless the boiler has been commissioned by a registered fitter.
But with the figures quoted here on the mark-up charged by registered fitters, you could afford to replace your boiler 3 or 4 times for the cost of having one fitted. This starts to make the guarantee sound about as attractive as one of Comet's extended ones.
Nick is buying an 80 pound vacuum cleaner Salesman: Do you want to extend the guarantee - it's only 40 pounds for three years Nick: Do you mean that there's a 50% chance the machine will break down in that time? Because if so, I don't want to buy the machine, and if not I don't want the guarantee.
Browsing round IIRC Comet, the poster on top of a Meile washing machine extolled the virtues of its design and construction - made for at least a
10 year life. Wonder if they still try to flog 5 year warranties on these?
I would be inclined to purloin such a showcard if purchasing the machine
- could be useful evidence in a statutory rights case up to six years in the future.
Although I though Mieles were g'teed for 10 years and designed for 20. Maybe Comet are selling cheap ones.
Owain
No need. It's included by the manufacturer for either 5 or 10 years depending on model. Design life is 15 to 20 years..
Miele's come with a 5yr warranty for nothing, anyway. And we got it extended to 10 years for nothing as a promo offer. (Or it may have been 10 and
15, I forget.)
I expect they're just too stupid to notice. Or they rely on their customers being likewise.
When we purchased an AEG dishwasher about 4 years ago it malfunctioned within the first year. On contacting AEG they referred us back to Comet, as the seller. Apparently Comet bought them /without/ the manufacturer's warranty, and Comet would have to fix it. The 'engineer' they sent round didn't normally do dishwashers, just washing machines, and having fixed the problem thought it still had another problem. After several new parts they gave us a new dishwasher, which behaved the same, and is still going strong.
They probably have similar warranty 'deals' with other manufacturers. We go elsewhere for white goods now.
Ideal tried that one on me. I informed them of the law. They didn't know that non corgi people can fit a boiler until I told these people and they looked it up. They fixed the boiler.
So you're actually admitting to *not* being CORGI registering while claiming to be a pro in the domestic heating field? Care to explain?
Madness electic caber tossing madness.
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You should know by now Dave, he does not actually *do* anything, just talks about it.
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