Circular saw handedness

[michael adams]

Could be worse.

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michael adams

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[michael adams]

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Paranoid as well eh ?

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The word is "true" and that would be virtually impossible over an 8 ft length.

If the timber was going to be part of a construction, fixed to other pieces of timber or indeed "nailed to the wall" then a bit of deviation isn't that critical as it will be evened out in the structure as whole.

But that doesn't mean that any of it is true

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We ? Who exactly is this "we" you're referring to there ? All the thousands who regularly turn up to your mass rallies or lectures ? Your imaginary friends ? Or just a few of your chums on here who you can be absolutely sure actually exist in real life, and who don't seem to mind you speaking on their behalf. What with you being their "leader" and all that.

So that's now paranioa, plus delusions of grandeur.

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The OP to whom those comments were addressed didn't though, did he ?

What makes you think everything posted on here is addressed directly to you ? What makes you think that you're the centre of the universe ?

So that's now paranoia, delusions of grandeur, and now narcissism.

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It originally doubled up in a saw-table as I explained to you before.

So that's now paranoia, delusions of grandeur, narcissism, and now short-term memory loss. Not looking too good is it ?

Unless of course you somehow imagine that a dinky "girls saw" with a 6" blade would be a suitable choice in such a situation.

Perhaps I could upset you a bit further by describing the crosscut table I made for the table saw. The near edge of the sub- table was guess what ? Two words. Start with "f" and an "e". The sliding table was anything providing it was big enough. Stops and guides could be bolted to this as needed, And attached to the underside of the sliding table was guess what. That's it " Another of these "f" "e'" s.

There is only one advantage to what you choose to describe as a sawboard. Only having to mark up the once. The word sawboard was around long before the advent of circular saws or the internet for that matter

The only surprising thing is that you still don't seem to have worked out for yourself the advantages of having a piece running at right angles on the underside of a short sawboard so as to ensure square cuts.

Maybe because it wasn't on any of those US websites you seem to get all your ideas from.

Stripwood is designed to be pinned, glued nailed to larger pieces of wood. It doesn't need to be true. The only difference from normal timber is its suitablity for use as mouldings with possibly sharp details.

You already said that.

Running out of material already ?

That was a wind-up. The short edge of my framing square is 36". Anyone who'd use a framing sqaure made of steel to do crosscuts when they could knock up three pieces of timber to make a short "sawboard" which could be held against the work in seconds is really in need of serious help. More especially if they've been doing it for years. It's maybe no wonder you need to resort to insults and names calling.

On top of all the rest of your problems.

michael adams

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[michael adams]

The short edge of my framing sq is actually 18" not 36" as stated before.

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Paranoid as well eh ?

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The word is "true" and that would be virtually impossible over an 8 ft length.

If the timber was going to be part of a construction, fixed to other pieces of timber or indeed "nailed to the wall" then a bit of deviation isn't that critical as it will be evened out in the structure as whole.

But that doesn't mean that any of it is true

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We ? Who exactly is this "we" you're referring to there ? All the thousands who regularly turn up to your mass rallies or lectures ? Your imaginary friends ? Or just a few of your chums on here who you can be absolutely sure actually exist in real life, and who don't seem to mind you speaking on their behalf. What with you being their "leader" and all that.

So that's now paranioa, plus delusions of grandeur.

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The OP to whom those comments were addressed didn't though, did he ?

What makes you think everything posted on here is addressed directly to you ? What makes you think that you're the centre of the universe ?

So that's now paranoia, delusions of grandeur, and now narcissism.

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It originally doubled up in a saw-table as I explained to you before.

So that's now paranoia, delusions of grandeur, narcissism, and now short-term memory loss. Not looking too good is it ?

Unless of course you somehow imagine that a dinky "girls saw" with a 6" blade would be a suitable choice in such a situation.

Perhaps I could upset you a bit further by describing the crosscut table I made for the table saw. The near edge of the sub- table was guess what ? Two words. Start with "f" and an "e". The sliding table was anything providing it was big enough. Stops and guides could be bolted to this as needed, And attached to the underside of the sliding table was guess what. That's it " Another of these "f" "e'" s.

There is only one advantage to what you choose to describe as a sawboard. Only having to mark up the once. The word sawboard was around long before the advent of circular saws or the internet for that matter

The only surprising thing is that you still don't seem to have worked out for yourself the advantages of having a piece running at right angles on the underside of a short sawboard so as to ensure square cuts.

Maybe because it wasn't on any of those US websites you seem to get all your ideas from.

Stripwood is designed to be pinned, glued nailed to larger pieces of wood. It doesn't need to be true. The only difference from normal timber is its suitablity for use as mouldings with possibly sharp details.

You already said that.

Running out of material already ?

That was a wind-up. The short edge of my framing square is 18". Anyone who'd use a framing sqaure made of steel to do crosscuts when they could knock up three pieces of timber to make a short "sawboard" which could be held against the work in seconds is really in need of serious help. More especially if they've been doing it for years. It's maybe no wonder you need to resort to insults and names calling.

On top of all the rest of your problems.

michael adams

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[ARWadsworth]

WOW. Did he have to drink his way out of the wreakage?

Adam

[The Medway Handyman]

Same bollox - different name. Or perhaps I just attract feaks like you.

You built a home made saw table? JHFC. What kind of idiot are you?

Its simple. You buy the saw that copes most efficiently with the jobs you do. Not the one with a reputation for a good motor thats far too big & difficult to handle. Makita 165mm saw will cut 50mm+ which is all I need.

It wouldn't upset me at all. I can afford a propper table saw.

What did the word 'sawboard' describe before they circular saw was invented then?

I built cross cut jigs years ago you idiot. Don't suppose you've ever read The Woodworkers Bible by Alf Martensson? Bought my copy 20 years ago. It mentions several cross cut jigs including the one you describe. Its just easier to use a square when on site..

Errrm. Like the base of a sawboard?

Never the less, it is true or straight. Go and look at a piece.

Doing this stuff for a living means you are on site, not in a workshop with all your cute little gadgets. Framing square is useful for many things including cross cutting. One item on the van instead of several. Get the idea?

[michael adams]

Bought my copy 20 years ago.

to my calculations that comes to 29.

Pity for your sake though it didn't include a chapter on how not to repeatedly make a fool of yourself. Eh ?

I assume nevertheless it still holds pride of place on that bookshelf of yours along with your "Viz Book of Swearing" and "Coping with High Blood Pressure when Under Stress".

If I wasn't familiar with the book I might even have thought, that that's where you got the idea for the aluminium jointing strip on the worktop. As the date would be about right.

michael adams

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[The Medway Handyman]

How sad is that? You only had to say you had a copy, I'd have believed you.

The only fool around here is you. Buying unsuitable saws you can't handle, reinventing the wheel, making work for yourself etc.

I do have a copy of Roger's Profanisaurus thank you. An excellent read. Perhaps I should purchase a book on "How to Deal with Sad Patronising Fuckwits"

[pcb1962]

My local Wickes is full of 8ft straight edges, up to 30ft if you want. It's perfectly possible to pick out a straight piece of sawn timber by eye and check it against one of the racking uprights. As long as you glue and pin/screw it within a couple of days it will remain adequately straight for the purpose of a saw guide.

[michael adams]

With a light behind the whole length ?

Glue pin or screw it to what exactly ?

Presumably something which by its very means of manufacture cannot possibly go out of true as a result of changes in temperature or humidity ?

Now what could that be, I wonder ?

michael adams

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[The Medway Handyman]

Far too simple for the Adams f****it to grasp.

Only necessary for the dim of brain.

Errrm. The base of a sawboard.....

No one was suggesting the base of the sawboard should be anything other than ply (or MDF if you want crap).

Your point was that the guide strip had to be plywood - and it doesn't. The original instruction for the sawboard showed a softwood strip.

[michael adams]

If you spoke to your customers in the same way you speak to people on here, then you wouldn't have any customers, would you ?

What other "idea" would anyone need ?

If you want to put bread on the table you have to keep that gob of yours shut rather than insulting people. Just give them a nice smile as they hand over the money.

That's your customer profile chum.

You have to swallow it in real life, end of.

And so compensate for it in some strange way by insulting complete strangers on here.

If I ever needed advice on chopping fenceposts, or joining worktops with aluminium strip, you have my word you'll be the first person I'll turn to.

For the more complicated stuff though, like cutting to ½ mm tolerances with every single cut without spending a fortune, maybe not.

michael adams

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[michael adams]

And you've remebered after all that time !

Bless!

It is indeed.

I repeat "a few years ago"

Were you the OP of that thread, the person who swore blind there was a piece missing, when there wasn't ?

Never mind, you'll get over it eventually.

michael adams

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[michael adams]

All plain sawn softwood starts to move again as soon as it comes off the thicknesser as machining releases inbuilt tension in the wood. More especially as none of the softwood you find in sheds has rings running parallel with the surfaces. I explained all that to before

You're not worth wasting any more time on chum. Just a foul mouthed jumped up buffoon who really seems to think that insulting people and mock bravado are some kind of substitute for actual knowledge.

michael adams

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[The Medway Handyman]

in mixer taps?

Got any pictures of your taps to post you sad git?

That micky mouse attempt to copy a guide rail wouldn't last 5 minutes in the back of a van - and one damp day is going to bugger it completely. MDF - what a clown.

The benefit of the sawboard is its simplicity. You are clearly too thick to appreciate that.

[pcb1962]

I've just checked a couple of 2.4m lengths of 2x1 that I picked out in Wickes on Saturday against my plasterers featheredge and there is no detectable warping in any dimension. The trick with softwood from sheds is to buy no more than you need at a time, and use it quickly.

[michael adams]

What more needs to be added ?

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Aluminium jointing strips a speciality

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[michael adams]

For a start in my local Wickes all the timber is shrinkwrapped in multiples. Haven't you ever wondered why that is ? With only a few loose lengths available

- which are always rubbish. Why should anyone waste hours on end slitting open shrinked wrapped bundles in Wickes in the vain hope of eventually finding that odd true length ? That odd piece timber which has somehow defied the laws of nature and maintained an unnaturally (given its internal structure growth-ring wise) true shape ? When they can rip the edges off a sheet of plywood to serve as straightedges ? Edges which can be screwed and unscrewed from whatever you like, as often as you like, for as long as you like, yet are guarenteed to remain true virtually for ever ? Under habitable conditions at least.

Its the same with the corners. I mark out sheets with a 4ft dry-wall T square. If I can remember, whenever I aquire a new sheet of ply the first thing I do is try the corners with the T square. Not to check the plywood is true - which can be guarenteed as this stuff is cut on roller beds weighing tons - but that the T square hasn't taken a knock and gone out of true.

The trick with softwood from sheds is to nail or screw it to something else. Walls*, other pieces of wood etc etc. Bending it as much as necessary in the process. That's what it was primarily designed for, and it serves its purpose well in that regard.

michael adams

I was in Wickes one day and came across a neighbour with his wife going through the woodstacks. He had a real sour look on his face.

Me: "Yeah its all rubbish this stuff isn't it? Its only really suitable to be nailed to a wall " Neighbour:" How do you mean ? I don't just nail stuff to the wall".

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[michael adams]

MDF is perfectly adequate for structures which are largely hidden.

Hidden. Geddit ?

Unlike say running a very visible aluminium strip across the joint in a worktop.

You might just as well paint a sign with big letters to go above the worktop, while you're at it.

"WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO GET IT DONE PROPERLY"

Maybe with an arrow, or one of those pointing hands ?

michael adams

[The Medway Handyman]

So far you've tried everything haven't you? Pathetic sarcasm, ad hominem attacks, the highly original (not) changes to my signature, attacks on my business, selective snipping of posts etc.

The upshot is, you are a no life muppet who can't use a circular saw properly & has no idea of how to use something as simple as a sawboard.

Wanker.

[The Medway Handyman]

However its not adequate for a jig that will apparently cut to half a millimetre (LOL) especially iof it ever got damp or suffered the slightest knock.

What? Hidden as in hidden sand in mixer taps? Tosser.

I think this post clearly shows your incredible arrogance and your incredible stupidity. Joint strips are perfectly acceptable to a large proportion of the public and they are used extensively used in rental properties, office kitchens etc.

Yet another concept you can't grasp. Typical amatuer.