I just receive my gas bill from EDF 100=A3 for 76 days
I have a small one bedroom flat in London. I have a wodter combi boiler and my heating is on from 12:00PM until
2:00AM every day =3D 14 Hours and I take one bath a day It is on thermostat for 21 deg, and only two radiators are on. Bathroom radiator and living room. All the rest are off. Boiler set to 75 Degrees for the radiators.....
My bill is for 103 units witch is 3234 Kwh.
First 1220=3D3.93=A3 Next 2023=3D3.472=A3
Is it looking normal for you??? What is the bills price others got this year? If those are the prices for Gas I don't want to think how much a 3 bedroom house will pay. It looks like heating by gas isn't worth it any more
Seems normal if you overuse the heating like that.
Thermostat at 21 is too high unless you are unwell or only own t shirts. Try 18, or 19 if you find that too cold. You almost certainly don't need it on for that long either. It should go off a while before you go to bed - the flat will take a while to cool down, and it's OK for it to drop substantially while your asleep. You might find it's OK to let it cool a bit in the afternoon too - see what happens if you have it off from say 2 - 5.
Also, make sure you turn it off if you're going out. No point heating an empty flat, and the worst that happens is you have to keep you're coat on for 5 - 10 mins when you get back while the place warms up. Obviously if you know what time you'll be back, you can set the timer.
Heating by gas is still cheaper - electricity prices have gone up too.
On 18 Jan 2007 07:34:25 -0800 someone who may be "Golan" wrote this:-
How well insulated is it? How draughty?
Why? When are you in the flat?
If it is well insulated then it is as well to turn the heating on only when you get in. Otherwise set the clock to turn it on half an hour before you expect to get in. Turn it off before you go to bed, the time before depending on how well insulated the flat is.
Expensive. Consider fitting a shower, fed from the boiler, which will save gas and water compared to a bath.
Far too high. Turning it down to 18 or 19 will save a lot of gas.
What do you wear in the flat? Is it too hot if you wear a jersey?
But eh. Inflation is only 2.9% mate. Or so Gordon Twatface says anyway. he should live in teh real world.
I have a small one bedroom flat in London. I have a wodter combi boiler and my heating is on from 12:00PM until
2:00AM every day = 14 Hours and I take one bath a day It is on thermostat for 21 deg, and only two radiators are on. Bathroom radiator and living room. All the rest are off. Boiler set to 75 Degrees for the radiators.....
My bill is for 103 units witch is 3234 Kwh.
First 1220=3.93£ Next 2023=3.472£
Is it looking normal for you??? What is the bills price others got this year? If those are the prices for Gas I don't want to think how much a 3 bedroom house will pay. It looks like heating by gas isn't worth it any more
I can't understand the pricing units you've utilised;- it's normal in English isage to write £3.93 and £3.47 rather than the way you've written it. Do you intend to convey that a 'unit' (KwH) is actually nearly four Pounds? My bills indicate £0..0495 and £0.02821 per unit [First and Subsequent] in real-money terms that's approximately a shilling per unit then sixpence per unit.
1220 + 2023 =3D 3243 just a slight difference from 3234? Not enough to worry though.
Cost =3D 7.4 UK pounds. (I gotta find that pounds sign on this Canadian keyboard!)
Your average cost therefore 740/3243 =3D 0.22 pence per kilowatt hour?
That doesn't seem right?
Did you mean 22 pence per k.watt hour?
Also using 3243 kilowatt hours in 76 days is about 2.5 month; so your monthly consumption, in order to compare with our monthly billing, was
3243/2.5 =3D 1281 kilowatt hours per month.
By comparison:
Our last electric bill (for this all electric, four bedroom house etc.) here, for Dec 8th to Jan 10th, a not particularly cold Christmas btw, was for 3491 kilowatt hours. Like yourself, normally one occupant but son was home from Middle East for that period and longer. And we had some Christmas decorations on too.
And that's for everything, heating, hot water, lights, TV, two computers on all the time, clothes dryer etc. Also included a couple of days of heavy heating (about 7 kilowatt heaters, trouble lights etc.) of the garage for some 20 hours while working on the pick-up truck which probably cost about $20 (say ten quid?). Did the first complete four wheel brake job for less than $230 (about 100 quid?) at 65,000 kilometres on the now four year old vehicle. So the cost of the heating was almost incidental!
Our 3491 k.watt hours, including a monthly account charge (even f you use no electricity) and sales tax cost $312 Can. dollars. That's
3491/312 =3D about 11.2 Can. cents per k.watt hour or roughly five or six pence per?
Discuss some or have I missed something vital?
PS. Right now it is unusually cold for this location. Minus 15 deg. C. Not much wind though. By Sunday supposed to be back up to +1 to minus 4 C=2E
Are you sure about that, that would mean you have to spend £4794.60 before you go onto the cheaper rate.
It would be far far far more believable if it was 3.93p per unit rather than £3.93 This would equate to an effective standing charge of £20.74, wich sounds about right.
I have a wodter combi boiler and my heating is on from 12:00PM until
2:00AM every day = 14 Hours
That's a long time, ours rarely comes on - but we don't have it on the timer.
Only mucky people have baths.
Bathroom radiator and living room.
Do you live in the bathroom?
21 is uncomfortably hight. Ours is 10 degrees. I know that's low for most people but it rarely needs to be warmer, if the day is cold we put on a jumper or other warmer clothes.
Your heating isn't what I consider normal ...
If those are the prices for Gas I don't want to think how much a 3 bedroom house will pay. It looks like heating by gas isn't worth it any more
We have a three bedroomed house in Yorkshire - colder than London. Our quarterly gas bill is £75 (dd but we're in credit). That's with British Gas, which everyone says is the most expensive but we can't see the point in changing.
We have gas hob cooking, a gas boiler for central heating and hot water (not a combi nor a condensing) and two gas fires. We also have a solar water heating panel but of course that doesn't work every day.
We have excellent loft insulation, cavity wall insulation and double glazing.
Our house is warm although the radiators are seldom warm.
Is this an estimated 3234 kWh which the gas company may have over-estimated? Or did you really use that amount of energy (i.e. is the bill based on a real meter reading)?
3234 kWh from gas over 76 days should cost about £100 (that's what it would cost on my tarriff [1]). So if you really used 3234 kHh your bill looks about right.
The bill sounds OK-ish but a little too high for a well-heated small flat in town but the flat may not be well insulated so it isn't outrageous.
3234 kWh is about 292 cubic metres of gas. That's about 103 units in "hundreds of cubic feet" so it looks like your meter reads in HCF, not m^3. That looks fine.
The only two issues may be:
- is the bill an estimate or is it real?
- if it's real then you are paying the right amount and you may wish to look at insulation or other energy-saving measures if the amount is too large for you.
[1] My tarriff is 3.559 pence per kWh for the first 4572 kWH per year (i.e. for about 952 kWh over 76 days) and 2.830 pence per kWh for the rest. It isn't the cheapest round here any more and I should switch (it's also not the most expensive).
He should see the doctor who might advise him to move to a warmer climate. :) no, seriously to not be able to tolerate less than 21 indoors is crazy. Does he never go out? How does he cope outside? If he is ill then can you claim some heating allowance?
There is a big difference between walking around outside in winter clothing and sitting in an armchair in normal indoor dress.
I used to look after the computer which controlled the heating & aircon for a large office block and if the temperature dropped below 20degC then the complaints started coming in.
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