Are these rivets?

[SoundMate]

Along with the material used to construct a container that I own, which many helpful chaps on this group have already assisted me with, I'm trying to source some pins/rivets and related tools similar to these:

've trawled around looking for something similar and I've found plenty of pop rivets that will achieve the desired result however, I need something with the same flush style (no hole through the rivet), and they need to be brass, steel or another material that can be given an authentic/depreciated finish. So far the most usable thing I've encountered are furniture pins but these aren't really suitable for my project. Can anyone suggest where I might find such a product or at least what I should be looking for aside from rivets?

[dennis]

[Cicero]

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They're 'bifurcate rivets'. Try a 'google' for clear pictures.

Use a hammer and something like a cold chisel used on its side to set them.

Cic.

[Chris_W]

Brilliant! Both of your examples look good so far, thanks very much.

[The Medway Handyman]

Isn't 'Bifurcate' a great word :-)

[Cicero]

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It sounds rude without actually being so; it might have been borrowed from the late 'Father Ted'.

Cic.

[Roger Mills]

As others have said, you need bifurcated rivets similar to these:

they're like mine, they come in assorted lengths and the tin contains a wire 'handle' to hold each rivet while you are tapping it into the material. [I've got a couple of tins which look exactly like these, which I inherited from my father - one of which he had when I was a kid, so they're several decades old!]

If joining (say) two pieces of leather, you tap the rivet through both pieces into a piece of soft wood underneath. Then you turn it over and remove the wood, and spread the legs of the rivet. The easiest way is to tap a bit of round bar of an appropriate diameter down on the ends of the legs, so as to start them spreading, and then finish off with a hammer. If desired, you can slide a metal washer over the rivet before spreading the legs, to give extra strength.

[Chris_W]

Cheers Roger. They're always interested to know what I get up to in the basement at work ...... 'I'm bifurcating'. Hehe, it is very Craggyesque.

[NT]

Can we use the picture on the wiki?

[Dave]

And don't forget to get the washers for the other side.

Dave

[Derek Geldard]

They rejoice under the name of bifurcated rivets. Farsands on google.

The ones on the photo look like they've been "set" by a machine, (your next problem).

Derek

[Chris_W]

Yeah I did think they looked machined. This isn't such a big deal though, it justs means the job will take a bit lobger.

'Can we use the picture on the wiki?

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Sure you can, do what you like with it.

[Ian & Hilda Dedic]

try

supply craft fixings, both solid and split rivets mainly for leather work.

Hope this helps.

dedics

[NT]

cheers chris

NT

[PeterC]

Or, on the Isle of Man, 'trifurcate' (can be even more fun).

[Jon Fairbairn]

As in, "I did trifurcate, but she was already taken"?

[PeterC]

That needs the present participle.

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Saw short copper nails recently; diameter prob. a few mm. Such nails could be cut shorter and used as rivets by peening over the dead end? If necessary a suitable washer could be fitted over the unseen end before riveting? Perhaps a copper nail and brass washer? BTW when repairing garden tools such as spades/shovels/rakes etc. have used cut off four inch steel nail as rivets through the repaired fastening of wood handle to metal portion. Just hit it hard enough with a heavy hammer!

[stan]

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[Roger Mills]

That sort of rivet doesn't need to be hit *hard* - it just needs a lot of glancing blows with a ball-pein hammer - radially from the centre outwards - in order to spread the end.