Aldi nail gun.

Simple lad here but if this tool is as un-safe as you seem to think it is surely trading standards would have something to say ? Must admit didn't know anything about Aldi selling tools until recently when a lad turned up at work with a digital vernier from there for a £5 Must admit it measures exactly the same as my £35 one.

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a distinct possibility. the germans are schticklers, IME

which might lead a reasonble person to conclude that the 'quality' expensive kit that's been purchased in the UK at whichever leading factor may have been similar in quality but markedly different in markup to Aldis offerings ?

RT

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Oh I get it...you're tirades of verbal abuse and expletive language is really your own subtle brand of irony that i've failed to grasp is it?

I do apologise for not being as well read as you. I really should consult my thesaurus in future as there's obviously more meaning to the swear words and aggressive style that you adopt.

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RedOnRed

not.

nail, head, "red on red" says it all

RT

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Queue the drum roll...nice come back with hilarious consequences. I take it one of your infants came up with that one?

Hmmm, did some one mention riposte earlier?

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Enough Aggro....Back to the OP

In a joinery workshop where I worked they had a 'Cosmo' nailer. As cheap as the Aldi offering. It was shared between 4 joiners and got constant use. They had had it for 4 years and never put a drop of oil in it.

Was still working when I left to set up on my own.

I got one off ebay for £18.00.

Using it every day but I do tend to put a bit of oil in every time I use it.

Cheers

Nicholas

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Well, Andy, any tool, of any price, which breaks can maim or kill. Spouse has bought a lot of tools from Lidl and Aldi and I've been doubtful but he's found them to be very good.

I bought one - £4.99 I think. It's excellent. It works100% (checked against my mechanical vernier) and is far easier to read.

Mary

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Well, certainly we'vebeen happier with the tools (including garden tools) we've bought from Aldi and Lidl than we have with the equivalent from the sheds. The fact that they've been cheaper is a bonus.

The sheds have refunded money for failed goods but we've never had to test Lidl and Aldi.

I never thought I'd praise them.

Mary

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Oh, I've just realised what you're talking about. Spouse was incandescent when he saw them, having paid a lot more for one at HB in an emergency last year.

Mary

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I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools can be highly dangerous if improperly used and in the event of failure.

If you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then you might think carefully about compromising on such a tool. When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite hard wood. It can just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting when something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

Maybe these things are great - who knows? Personally, I'm not into playing Russian roulette.

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Andy Hall

I'm simply saying that compressed air and compressed air tools *can* be highly dangerous *if* improperly used and in the event of failure.

*If* you had seen what happens in terms of shrapnel going at high speed in the event of the failure of a nailer, as I have then you would then you *might* think carefully about compromising on such a tool. When operating correctly, it is designed to project nails into quite hard wood. It *can* just as easily do so into the human body.

Trading standards departments operate by exception, primarily acting When something bad happens - in this case probably an accident.

*Maybe* these things are great - *who knows?* Personally, I'm not into playing Russian roulette.

can you see what you did there ?

RT

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Exactly what I thought myself never been in aldi but will do if they get verniers back in at that price damn would buy a couple as spares.

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JD

Yes I'm sure, Mary.

It's one thing having something that is made cheaply that produces inaccurate work or is uncomfortable to use.

However, I have seen the results of mechanical failure of a cheap air nailer. Pieces embedded in the wall that could easily have been embedded in the user. It was quite frightening.

Compressed air and compressed air tools are very useful - I have an airline system installed in my workshop and quite a collection of air tools. There is a huge difference in build quality between these £20 jobs and a good quality one like a Senco. The latter will cost around £100, but I simply don't think it's worth the risk of skimping where compressed air is concerned.

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Andy Hall

You don't drive then :-)

Mary

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Mary Fisher

Absolutely.

I'm highlighting that this is a risk that is not worth taking as far as I am concerned.

There is a large difference in build quality between these £20 air tools and decent ones. In most cases if people want to buy cheap tools the worst outcome is likely to be poor quality work or non catastrophic failure of the tool.

With an air tool, mechanical failure is likely to be far more serious.

If you want to take that kind of risk, it's your choice.

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Andy Hall

Fair point.

I'm particularly concerned with nailers because I have seen what happens when a cheap one fell apart.

Since I can control the risk there by buying a decent nailer, that's what I've done.

Sadly I can't do much about idiots on the roads other than choosing times and routes.

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Andy Hall

That's true - but just because something's cheap doesn't mean it going to be dangerous. By the same token, just because an item is expensive it can't be guaranteed to be safe.

That says something about the operator, doesn't it?

Have you seen, handled and examined the one in question? You might be surprised. But you have to have an open mind :-)

Mary

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Of course. True both ways. However, having seen air tools at both ends of the market, I simply wouldn't even think about going for anything less than the best build quality. I don't think that you can put a monetary value on eyes and fingers.

Fortunately he was using the tool correctly and fortunately he was wearing safety glasses...

I might be, but I doubt it. I looked at quite a number of different labels of 16 and 18 gauge nailers a few months ago. As far as I could make out, the entry level ones appear to be from two different sources, almost certainly in the far east. Other than that, they were identical.

Perhaps this supermarket has a different source, but either way simple economics dictates that £20 at point of sale doesn't buy very much, even at Chinese labour rates.

Generally I do, but when it comes to taking unnecessary risks with something potentially lethal for the sake of saving a few pounds, I'm afraid I don't.

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Talking to the manager in the local Aldi about their returns procedures.

He said that if you returned an item that they still stocked they'd offer the option to replace it or receive a refund. If it were out of stock they'd refund the purchase price (If you had the receipt), otherwise they'd refund the price it was last sold at. However, high priced items such as computers may be sent for repair, at the managers discretion.

However, he said that Aldi had major problems with people buying things like digital cameras, returning them just before the warranty expires claiming that they'd gone faulty. Often the items were No fault found. The people would then re-buy the same item (Often cheaper) a few weeks later.

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