The economy -- are we replacing or repairing?

[Mr. Grumpypants]

First you accuse me of being a member of the PLLCF, whatever that is. Then I'm a trolling duck.

When people realize they're wrong, they often resort to childish tactics like name calling.

[clare]

No, actually in many cases it IS true - in the workplace for sure. MANY jobs are advertised and they might as well put right on the add "white males need not apply" Particularly in government regulated businesses - and government/civil service jobs.

A friend years ago when the Seagrams Distillery in Waterloo closed down, was looking for a job. He was a BIG BOY - about 310 and 6'4", and bald as a billiard ball On the application was the question "are you a member of a visible minority?" He answered yes and got an interview - The interviewer was taken aback, and asked why he answered "yes" to the visible minority question. He answered that he was a hardworking, intelligent, unemployed white male, so was in the minority, and at 6'4" and 310 , and "shiny" he was DEFINITELY visible!!

[The Daring Dufas]

OK "Mr. Grumpypants", have it your way. I'll never call you names again. ^_^

TDD

[The Daring Dufas]

Years ago I read of an engineer who had his name legally changed to a Hispanic surname so he could get a job. Before that, his resumes with his outstanding qualifications were always tossed. After his resumes were edited by changing to the new name, he was swamped with job offers. o_O

TDD

[George Plimpton]

That's not what it ever was. Affirmative action *always* meant preference for minorities - in other words, UNEQUAL opportunity.

[Stormin Mormon]

I may try that. Sounds like a grande idea.

Kreestoffer A. Chungo Learn more about Jesus (my compadre... mows me lawno)

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Years ago I read of an engineer who had his name legally changed to a Hispanic surname so he could get a job. Before that, his resumes with his outstanding qualifications were always tossed. After his resumes were edited by changing to the new name, he was swamped with job offers. o_O

TDD

[Jack Hammer]

Kelly Sedey had one wish, to get a new job. Then one day while on an interview she got her dream job offer! She accepted. When she got home, she noticed on her computer she had e-mail. She checked it, the usual stuff from her friends, but then she saw one that she had never gotten before. It was this chain letter. She deleted it without even reading it all. BIG MISTAKE! Her luck would change for the worse. Later that evening, she received a phone call from her new employer! She was fired. When she hung up the phone, her dog died.

[Kurt Ullman]

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There was a white firefighter in New England (some reason I think Boston, but don't hold me to it) that sued the Department. He was Hispanic (he could trace his family back to Spain) but he did not get his Captaincy (despite scoring higher on the exams) because of the extra points that were awarded. He sued, demanded the "hispanic" points, and got them as well as his Captains bars. Illustrative of the fact that AA does occur and that government can write really poor regs.

[HeyBub]

While waiting to board my flight at the Sky Harbor airport in Phoenix, an itty-bitty TSA agentette tapped me on the shoulder and asked: "Excuse me sir, but could I get you to do me a favor?"

I looked down at her, slowly shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm married."

TSA does NOT have a sense of humor.

Anyway, speaking of "ticking off the boxes," TSA selected four passengers for "additional random screening."

The picked me, a senior white male, a senior black male, an young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic male with a goatee.

Boxes ticked.

Continuing with the story, we four stood against the wall while a different agentette prowled through the Hispanic guy's computer (looking for bomb making recipes?). I said to him, soto voice, "You know, you look more like a terrorist than the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business!"

The computer-prowling agentette looked and admonished me by saying: "There's no such thing as what a terrorist looks like!" To which I responded, "There damn sure is; they're Middle Eastern males with names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo?"

That earned me another talking-to.

Oh well. Screw 'em.

[Stormin Mormon]

I'm having a hard time remember, but a public official (Marion Barry, from Wash Dc?) said that the crime rate had dropped, if you disregard the murders.

I think it's manipulated numbers, when you don't count the people who want work, but have run out of benefits.

Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus

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The official "unemployment rate" is defined as those who are looking for work compared to the size of the labor force. This rate has been computed exactly the same way since 1940. Consider the basic definitions:

1. People with jobs are EMPLOYED
2. People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are UNEMPLOYED
3. Everybody else doesn't count (not looking for a job, not available for work).

The "labor force" is defined as #1 plus #2 above.

Back when the definition was decided, the number of people in category #3 above was minuscule. Since then, category #3 has grown to be significant. It is so significant today, that it masks the unemployment rate. That is, when folks not looking for work are included as "unemployed", the unemployment rate skyrockets this past year from 11% to 19%.

[Stormin Mormon]

Virus Alert !!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you receive an e-mail with a subject of Badtimes, delete it immediately WITHOUT READING IT. This is the most DANGEROUS e-mail virus ever.

It will rewrite your hard drive and scramble any disks that are even close to your computer. It will recalibrate your freezer's coolness setting so all your ice cream melts. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your VCR, and use subspace field harmonics to render any CDs you try to play unreadable.

It will give your ex-boy/girlfriend/ex-husband/wife your new phone number. It will mix antifreeze into your fishtank. It will drink all your beer and leave its socks out on the coffee table when company comes over. It will put a kitten in the back pocket of your good suit and hide your car keys when you are late for work.

Badtimes will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will give you nightmares about circus midgets. It will pour sugar in your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your current boy/girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner and hotel room to your Visa card.

It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. It will tease your dog. It will leave strange messages on your boss's voicemail in your voice. It is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve.

Badtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet seat up. It will make a batch of methamphetamine in your bathtub and leave bacon cooking on the stove while it goes out to chase high school kids with your snowblower.

These are just a few of the signs. Be very, very afraid!

Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus

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Kelly Sedey had one wish, to get a new job. Then one day while on an interview she got her dream job offer! She accepted. When she got home, she noticed on her computer she had e-mail. She checked it, the usual stuff from her friends, but then she saw one that she had never gotten before. It was this chain letter. She deleted it without even reading it all. BIG MISTAKE! Her luck would change for the worse. Later that evening, she received a phone call from her new employer! She was fired. When she hung up the phone, her dog died.

[pseudonym]

You mean the "good ol white boys club" is losing it's power?

[The Daring Dufas]

OH GOVERNMENT! SAVE US! PROTECT US FROM THE MEAN OLD BAD TERRORIST PEOPLE! Government response: OK.......

TDD

[The Daring Dufas]

Oh when I lived in Mexico for a short time I met some of the wonderful people who call it home and learned that there is actually a form of racism and casteism that is beyond the comprehension of most Americans because it doesn't exist here in the same form. Never call someone of pure Spanish decent "a Mexican". Them's fightin words. ^_^

TDD

[The Daring Dufas]

"The good old White boys club" hasn't been around for a while and wasn't quite as bad as what has replaced it. ^_^

TDD

[trader4]

I think the problem is that the above was just the beginning, not where we are today. In the beginning the goal was to eliminate discrimnation against minorities in employment. A goal which conservatives support. What it has turned into 45 years later, through more legislation and insane court decisions, is reverse discrimination.

[Mr. Grumpypants]

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message news:je9k43$ptm$ [e-mail]...

It's a great club...as long as you're white.

[gregz]

The college debt is also increasing like mad. There is a video about " the conspiracy" I don't think colleges are doing anything to reduce costs. They let the govt help build more buildings, and can't pay for upkeep.

Greg

[gregz]

I see too many people struggling.

Greg

[Jim Yanik]

"Mr. Grumpypants" wrote in news:4f0767d3$0$22475$c3e8da3$ [e-mail]:

Yes. since certain groups are granted preferences in employment,there is no longer any "equality" in the process.

"progressives" have skewed that to be "WITH regard",meaning certain minority groups get DO preference. Just look at government hiring. It's all part of their Newspeak.