A year or two back I bought a Black & Decker 9.6V cordless drill that
came with two batteries. I don't recall how much I paid for it. Several
months back, when I wanted a new battery for it, I found that for very
little more than the price of a battery alone I could buy a whole new
drill and battery (but only one battery, not the two that I got
originally). A couple of days ago I noticed that Lowes had the drill
with *two* batteries for exactly the same price as for a battery alone!
Can anybody explain the logic of this?
Marketing better to sell new products than parts for the old. True in almost
I take my batteries back to Batteries Plus and have then rebuilt with a
warranty. Costs less than a new battery.
If you really want to go nuts look at the battery terminals and positions.
Some companies like Sears change styles and types at the drop of a hat.
Making the new batteries incompatible with the old drills.
That's why I stopped buying those cheap crappy Crapsman cordless tools.
I paid $39.95 on sale for a 14.4 screwgun with two batteries, charger
and case. When one battery quickly died I discovered they want $59.95
for a replacement, so I waited for another sale and bought another
complete kit for $39.95. It didn't last much longer.
While most companies have pretty much standardized the 12V, 14.4V and
18V tools, Sears wants to sell you a 15.785V tool so you are stuck
buying the batteries from them.
No more crappy Crapsman cordless tools for me.
I had that same experience quite a few years ago with a Milwaukee
driver/drill. Hadn't even used it that much and the battery went kaput
after a few years. It cost me like $70 for a new battery. When this
one goes, it will be time for a new/better drill.
My Makita 6095 drill's battery packs(9.6v) still only cost $29 at Harbor
Freight or Home Depot.
If you think about it,the batteries are probably the most costly part of
the drill,especially for higher voltages that have more cells per pack.
I have a drill that I inherited from my father, and he bought it used over
40 years ago.
Still takes on any job without problems.
Never have a problem finding a 120v outlet to plug the cord in either.
Standing in a puddle of water with a corded drill can give you a cheap thrill.
I certainly wouldn't pay someone by the hour if they showed up on my work site
with only corded drills.
That's like a guy showing up to do framing with only a handsaw.
With a corded drill you learn pretty quick not to stand in puddles. ;)
And I've seen guys with a handsaw do faster & better work than some people
can do with a skillsaw.
The cordless stuff has it's uses, but those batteries are just plain dumb
with so many different non-interchangeable types.
If the batteries were standard, more of us might grow to like them more.
Yep there are a few. We have a framing crew in our area that are almost as fast
as the air tool crews. And they do a better job. They are never out of work.
When I quit the renovation business the only cordless tool worth a damn was the
Makita 9.6 volt drill and I had two.
I look at all the cordless stuff now and think of how much money I could have
made with these tools.
I used to install whirlybirds and I was fast.
One hour after arriving at your house I was leaving with my check unless you
offered me a beer. <g>
With cordless stuff like reciprocating saws, I could have saved an hour a day
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But the new inkjet printers that are cheaper than cartridges for the old
printer are in fact new models, so they may have refined the
manufacturing process and are now able to make them more cheaply.
Moreover, the cartridges that come with inkjet printers often have less
ink in them than the replacment cartridges (similarly for laser printers
and their toner cartridges).
But this is the same drill and the same battery, not a cheaper, flimsier
King Gillette started it all over a hundred years ago. He sold his
safety razor for less than it cost to manufacture, and sometimes even
gave them away, but you'd have to buy his blades at a price which seemed
unreasonably high for what it took to make them.
Low end laser printers are another example of that, but you can beat the
game by refilling the toner cartridges, which I do routinely for 5 laser
printers in our little office. I can get two and sometimes three refills
before the drum gives out, for about $5.00 worth of toner.
I refill our HP ink jet fax machine cartridges too, from bulk ink at a
cost of about $1.50 per refill.
I probably was born to do that because my dad used to resharpen his
Gillette "Blue Blades" by stropping them on the inside of a drinking
I've found that older tools are much better made than the new stuff, which
is made as cheap, and with as much flimsy plastic, as possible. My old B&D
7.2v drill used to eat right through cinderblock. My newer B&D 18v drill
sometimes slips or gets stuck on wood, probably due to the crummy keyless
chuck, which makes it practically impossible to get a good grip on the bit.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find replacement battery packs for the old drill,
so it probably went to the donation pile with the rest of my junk. Had I
known I could have rebuilt it, I would have kept it.
Anyway, the newer drill is good for use as a screw and bolt driver, and the
batteries work in a bunch of other tools, even my weedwacker, so it's not a
Buying ANYTHING off Ebay,make sure you get insurance and/or registered
shipping;USPS lost (misdelivered) a package of SDRAM modules I ordered,they
"confirmed delivery" (PRIORITY Express Mail)but don't know WHERE it was
delivered to. I don't have it,so it wasn't delivered to MY postal box.
Preferably use UPS,DHL,or Fed-X.
At least they record delivery signatures,and make up for their mistakes.
I would never buy anything from Harbor Frieght Tools
I had a Ryobi 18v cordless set that I ran into the ground. I di
however get my money's worth out of it. When it was new I ran th
battery down out of the box, charged it up and used it until it wa
dead again. This is supposed to increase the life of the battery n
matter what size. You should never let your battery overcharge o
leave it out in the sunlight. When your done working at the end o
the day unplug it. If you have trouble remembering - get a chea
timer. 12 bucks for a timer is better than paying for two ne
batteries. Also, dont use cordless for mixing anything thick lik
morter. And don't use for drilling into brick unless its a cordles
When my Ryobi Sh!t the bed I just took it back to Home Dump and the
gave me a replacement charger and two new batteries. I it used almos
everyday for a year before my batteries started to fail. Unfortunatel
I dropped the drill off a 28ft ladder and the casing split. I decide
to upgrade to Rigid 18 volt hammerdrill combo. It has rapid chargin
and you can charge two at a time. The quality is far better than an
cordless I've used and they detach a lot easier. Feel free to respon
or correct me anyone
I have yet to use the cordless finish nailer from any manufacturer
Has anyone had a chance to? I'd like to know the pros and cons
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