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Pink slime Inventor Eldon Roth
Launch year 2001 (human use)
earlier for pet food
Company Beef Products Inc. (BPI), others
Current supplier Beef Products Inc., others
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Pink slime, also known as lean finely textured beef (LFTB)  and boneless lean
beef trimmings (BLBT), is a beef-based food additive that may be added to
ground beef and beef-based processed meats as an inexpensive filler. It
consists of finely ground beef scraps, sinew, fat, and connective tissue which
have been mechanically removed in a heated centrifuge at 100°F (38°C) from
the fat into liquid fat and a protein paste. The recovered material is
then processed, heated, and treated with ammonia gas or citric acid to kill
E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into
blocks and flash frozen for use as an additive to beef products. The term
pink slime was coined in 2002 by Gerald Zirnstein, who at that time was a
microbiologist for the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food
Safety and Inspection Service, but some state officials have objected to the
nickname, saying that "lean, finely textured beef is the proper name."
Pink slime, also known as lean finely textured beef (LFTB)  and boneless
lean beef trimmings (BLBT), is a beef-based food additive that may be
added to ground beef and beef-based processed meats as an inexpensive
filler. It consists of finely ground beef scraps, sinew, fat, and
connective tissue which have been mechanically removed in a heated
centrifuge at 100°F (38°C) from the fat into liquid fat and a protein
paste. The recovered material is then processed, heated, and treated
with ammonia gas or citric acid to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other
bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into blocks and flash frozen for
use as an additive to beef products. The term pink slime was coined
in 2002 by Gerald Zirnstein, who at that time was a microbiologist for the
United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection
Service, but some state officials have objected to the nickname, saying
that "lean, finely textured beef is the proper name."
In the United States, the additive itself cannot legally be sold directly to
consumers, but can constitute up to 15% of ground beef without additional
labeling, and can also be added to other meat products such as beef-based
processed meats. Prior to the invention of the disinfection process, beef
scraps could only be sold as pet food or as an ingredient for cooking
But that's not all! See, the problem when you turn garbage bits of animal
carcasses into "pink slime" to sell as a food product is that there's an
issue with pathogens, such as E. coli. And when samples of the pink slime
were tested, the tests came back showing that the slime was rampant with
harmful bacteria. Now, one might think that the best idea would be to decide
not to sell pink slime to feed to humans, but there's no money in that, is
there? So BPI cleverly started disinfecting the slime with ammonia. And
convinced the FDA to allow them to list it as a "processing ingredient" so
that we wouldn't know we were eating ammonia.
We're eating garbage, people. Literally -- garbage that's been "cleaned up"
with ammonia and sold to us mixed with ground beef, shrink wrapped for
convenience at our local megamart.
Okay, the OP was something about cooking, and I missed that as link
to boiling off the fat. We aren't eating ammonia as it was long gone
before being added. BTW: If we decided not to sell beef because of e.
coli there would be a whole lot more stuff not on sale. The temporary
addition of something that only increased the pH and killed the nasties
should be touted as a good thing.
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
On Apr 24, 8:11 pm, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-
Yeah, spoken like a true lib loon.
Thanks for proving my point. Nothing there says it's
the law. In fact they say this:
"In March 2012 the GAO issed a new report: HEALTHCARE PRICE
TRANSPARENCY: Meaningful Price Information Is Difficult for Consumers
to Obtain Prior to Receiving CareIn this report GAO examined (1) how
various factors affect the availability of health care price
information for consumers and (2) the information selected public and
private health care price transparency initiatives make available to
Apparently you don't understand the difference between
proposals, pending legislation, law and what is actually
going on. Show me a hospital in NJ that has a website
that shows their prices for routine procedures and
as long as the wind blows east to west
It's the law in CA, I gave the cite. The fact that the hospitals don't follow
the law is good news for republican lawyers. The cite I provided stated that
the prices are posted on a CA.GOV site, but hospitals aren't as diligent with
posting it on their sites.
That economist perhaps has not given it much thought.
When you shop for a car, you take the bad with the good, you don't buy
an engine here, a transmission there, and a body somewhere else; you buy
a finished product (perhaps you don't like the particular transmission,
but you like the engine and the body, so you buy the car).
In a free market, you would shop the same way for health insurance. One
plan might have high co-payments, but lower premiums. Another might
cover elective surgery, while others might not. One might cover
preexisting conditions, while others don't. So you pick the one that
best suits your needs (and part of that is a crap-shoot, because you
don't really know what your future needs will be).
The problem is that some people will not buy insurance, either because
they like to gamble, or they lack money. When these people need care,
the medical community is ethically bound to provide it, and someone else
gets stuck paying for it. So how do we solve this problem? Perhaps a
government program to pay the costs, and require some sort of public
service by the non-insured to make up the loss.
To me, a major problem with health care is that the government, through
mediwhatever, is the biggest insurer, and dictates how much they will
pay and what procedures they will cover. If the actual cost of a
procedure is $500, the government can pay $100, and require that the
provider accept that as full payment. (Other insurers act pretty much
the same way). The government also requires that the full $500 be
billed to everyone, so if you don't have insurance, you are on the hook
for the full $500, unless the provider writes it off as a bad debt or a
charitable act. And of course the government programs do not have to
answer to shareholders, so they can run up huge losses with impunity.
Private insurers have to be profitable, or they go out of business. And
if they mistreat the policy holder, they can be sued; the government is
generally immune to being sued.
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:56:09 -0700 (PDT), " firstname.lastname@example.org"
About five years ago my doctor wanted me to do a "sleep study". I thought was
a waste of time and money, so asked how much it would cost. No one would
(could) tell me how much it would cost; "why do you care, your insurance will
pay for it". I finally did it but it was a waste of money and I still don't
know what it cost.
I had that done as part of a research study - it didn't cost me anything.
As expected, it was not too helpful because I don't have sleep apnea,
just wake up too many times, probably not related either to the bit of
BPH I have.
Heck, Mr. Bladder wakes me up with an average 16oz/475cc purge. When I
take HCTZ it can be 20oz/600cc. Last year I had severe edema and after
getting on HCTZ and Lisinopril, I lost 50lbs in two weeks for a total
of 60lbs in one month. I asked my roommate, "Does this edema make my
butt look big?" ^_^
My doctor friend who helps me wanted me to keep track of urine volume.
Another physician who I think is a quack because of his assumptions
told me I had kidney disease so I keep a close eye on kidney function.
Most folks have no clue as to the volume of liquid that goes through
them in a normal day. I sweat like a thunderstorm in hot weather and
you can always tell where I've been standing while I work on something
at a job site because of the puddle on the floor. ^_^
Thanks, I've been pushing pretty hard and it makes every square inch of
me hurt. I'm one of the invisible work force of the disabled who receive
no help from government. I work with a half dozen and know many more. We
can't hold a normal job because we never know when we are able to work
so we work as hard as we can when we can. The P.L.L.C.F. would be
stunned if they knew how many of us exist and refuse to go on the dole
even though we're told of the riches we are "entitled" to but refuse to
even ask for. If you handed me a welfare check, I'd spit in it, wad it
up and throw it back in your face. Me and my friends will work for what
we get and refuse to be wards of The State. We take care
of ourselves as best we can and at the end of the day, we have a sense
of accomplishment and pride because we can survive without anyone
propping us up. ^_^
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