On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:08:09 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
You're reacting to a crime that has already happened. The goal is to
make the penalty so severe that no one in the world would risk having
it imposed on them, and almost all people would stop performing
Automatic life in prison with no pardons, no parole.
Hard labor the entire time.
Food that will make you survive, no more.
First try at escape, death.
The prisons would be almost empty in 20 years. Only a true idiot would
perform a crime of any kind if they knew my prison awaited them.
Prisoners have NO rights. They gave them up when they performed the
crime that they are in prison for.
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:57:49 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Your guess isn't correct.
I read it and understand it.
Your system however, results in hope for the prisoner. Regardless of
how little, they would still have hope that IF they made full
restitution to the victim AND served the time that was allotted to
them for the crime they committed, THEN they get to go free again.
Your idea has merit, but still, in my mind, hasn't the severity to
STOP crime. My method gives the prisoner only one end result; to
survive and do excellent work to gain respect INSIDE their prison home
that will remain their prison home until they are dead.
The result of MY method is that crime would virtually stop. People
would turn their brains back on and accept the fact that breaking ANY
of societies laws would result in their incarceration for the
remainder of their lives with NO possibility of that incarceration
ending prior to their death.
The acceptance of this end result of crime would make the commission
of ANY crime something only a total fool would do.
I misunderstood you to be one of the people who cries for prisoners
rights. If that was a misunderstanding, then I apologize to you.
After almost 60 years of seeing the same result of the current method
of punishment for crime, I see that it plainly does not work.
It's time to repair it and make our homes safe and secure to us again.
(There, I've brought this back onto topic for the group.)
You really don't understand what I wrote, do you? Virtually no prisoners under
my plan, other than the trivial would ever get out. When I say a victim must
recover completely, I'm not just talking about monetary restitution. It's a
virtually unatainable bar. It doesn't give hope, it's a mocking tease.
Your plan is far too expensive to implement. Meanwhile, mine takes a liability
and turns it back into an asset, (mothball fleet) at reduced cost to the
taxpayer. Any idea what it current costs to house a prisner in a US prison? You
could send them all to Harvard for the same amount of money.
We are in agreement that the current system doesn't work at all as a deterent
because of indeterminate sentences.
Sometimes they can't help it - crimes of passion come to mind.
Until you've been vamped by a 12-year old in a thong who's made a pact with
others in her sixth-grade class over who'll get pregnant first...
Many people truly never fully recover, PTSD being one of the most common
lasting effects. And what if it gets too much for them and they OD on
Xanax? Would the perp then be charged with murder, or walk free from that
day on because the point of the victim is moot? And what government agency
is going to keep track of all this? Hell, we got agencies now that ignore
child abuse until it becomes homicide. Wouldn't take long to populate it
with liberal Democrats, and then the victims would have to start paying
restitution to the perps.
No, Salty. You just lost the ability to communicate any farther with me. I
see you are a troll and a shit stirrer, and do not want to hear facts. I
see several posts where you contradict your previous statement. I see
several posts that are ad hominem. I see you can't stick to the subject or
discuss things maturely. I see you're obviously overmedicated and
Ta Ta For Now. You take care, ya hear? And I hope your next reality
sandwich is a big bitter one.
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