You're a stronger man than I am, because it's fifty feet uphill,
and the hill itself is overgrown and tangled, such that you fall
with every step, most of the time doing a face plant since you're
practically vertical with the slope.
It's hard to see the slope in this picture, but, it's there:
Under those conditions, while you apparently can carry loads of
brush with your hands; I tried ... and I can't (effectively).
In fact, I can't even climb the hill empty handed, without grabbing
onto tree limbs to keep from falling back down the hill. I tied
a rope to hang onto, but then that left me only one free hand to
carry all that brush up the hill with.
All I could do was "throw" the brush uphill, half the time
it didn't make it all the way, so it tumbled back down upon
Since the space is penned in from every side but up, I just
couldn't do it. If you can carry armloads of brush in those
circumstances, all I can say is you're a (much) stronger man
than I am.
On Wed, 29 May 2013 11:51:11 -0700, chaniarts wrote:
I'll try that next.
I had discounted that, in favor of the tarp, but the tarp
caught on so much brush that it wouldn't budge.
Likewise with the bucket. It kept flipping over and
spilling its contents.
On Thu, 30 May 2013 07:59:57 -0700, DD_BobK wrote:
This particular section is hemmed in on all sides by
forest and terrain, none of which is near a roadway.
The only roadway is the top of the hill, which is
50 feet above the debris.
So there are only two choices:
a) Leave the debris where it lies (fire hazard notwithstanding)
b) Tote the debris uphill (as hard as that is)
On Thu, 30 May 2013 21:30:51 -0700, DD_BobK wrote:
Know thine enemy, and know thyself, and in a hundred
battles, you will prevail (Sun Tzu).
I am trying to eradicate three enemy combatant species
which have taken over acres of chaparral in my control,
1. Scotch Broom <== foreign invader
2. Spanish Broom <== foreign invader
3. Poison Oak <== native irritant
Those fast-growing invaders from the Mediterranean islands
quickly crowd out the native inhabitants, even to the point
of photosynthesizing from their very stems, so as to suck
the life-giving supplies from the mouths of the native plants
that actually feed the native animals.
The strengths of these nitrogen fixers is that they can
grow where no other plants can; and that they sow seeds
which last for 60 years, a percentage growing every year.
The weakness of the Scotch Broom is a relatively meager
supply line, via a single tap root, which holds tenaciously
in the summer months, but which yields like cutting warmed
butter in the wetness of the winter rains.
So, every winter, I spend a few hours blissfully hunting
Scotch Broom, destroying entire regiments of the stuff,
leaving the wounded to die & decay where they lie on the
slippery mud-soaked slopes (war is mud, after all).
Each spring, the lower-hugging guerrilla Spanish Broom,
which is much harder to flush out, even in the winter rains,
shows its true colors by blossoming a sweet yellow, which
removes all vestiges of camouflage. I've learned that to
mow them down is merely to invite a rebirth from the stumps,
so, the approach is to methodically cut and spray with
chemical warfare (glyphosate), within 5 minutes of the
dismembering. This, and only this, prevents the roots
from springing forth anew, to attack my sunlit hillsides.
The most formidable enemy is the native Poison Oak, which
fortresses in almost impenetrable thickets of wrist-thick
vines, covering every direction. For these, I carefully
cut a swatch through the minefield, taking extreme care
not to become contaminated too badly, although casualties
are inevitable. At times, I use the chainsaw, in sheer
determined all-out frontal attacks; but most of the time
I stealthily tunnel to the commanding root, which is always
at least four or five inches thick, to kill the command
and control center, at its very core.
Note: Those who say you can spray glyphosate on poison oak
have no idea what they're up against, as this enemy is
so deeply entrenched on a hillside that napalm itself
wouldn't flush it all out, in a week of spraying from
helicopters. No. Only a determined single-minded attack
on the core supply line will work, sort of like what the
Persons attempted at the battle north of Plateae before
the Greeks retreated and regrouped at Plateae, for the
battle that arguably saved the Western civilized world
from utter destruction.
And, so goes my battle with the foreign and native
invaders, who are forever attempting to take over my
sun drenched hillsides.
On Fri, 31 May 2013 12:47:17 -0700, chaniarts wrote:
Bummer that nobody brought this up until now.
If that's the case, I perhaps should have followed this suggestion:
"bundle the pulled plants to create 8- to 12-inch wattles that
can besecured to slopes to prevent erosion."
Paradoxically, these pests were originally planted to
Unfortunately, all parts of the plant are poisonous:
And, the CDFA says they're a Class C pest, which means they're:
“troublesome, aggressive, intrusive, detrimental, or destructive
...and difficult to control or eradicate.”
Here is how I removed the scotch broom in the winter season:
1. The task was to weed about an acre of these weeds:
2. I first got below the weed on the hillside & grasped low:
3. Then I pulled DOWNWARD with all my strength, always downhill:
4. With the ground saturated by rain, the weeds came out:
5. As predicted, the Spanish Broom was the hardest to pull:
6. Some of the plant roots were as thick as a fat thumb:
7. However most of the thousand of plants pulled had thin roots:
8. And now the muddy hillside is devoid of the weed plants:
The real bummer?
In all your OCD-ness.... you often miss the forest. :(
It's really too bad that accounting training & experience translates
so poorly to other endeavors. :(
My apologies if I missed the rational that motivated messing with
plants that generated all this debris....
seems like a grout scraping activity.
Obviously that is your case. However most people can learn to pick up a
few sticks and move them at the same time they are just doing it.
Nevertheless, as some point out, your posts are a hoot. Great for a laugh
and to make most of us very glad that we aren't you.
Now, try to figure out how to make some trusses for your tool shed.
I was hoping for a better way.
In fact, I'm praying for a better way, because I still have
about a hundred linear feet of slop to clear where the roadway
is UPHILL fifty feet ... which has to be done this week.
I'm thinking of just throwing the darn things uphill
but then they'll clutter the roadway and be a hazard.
On Sun, 26 May 2013 19:37:12 +0000, Danny D wrote:
To recap the thread, the suggested tool that worked the best
in my downhill situation was the tarp.
The only thing left was to cull out all this frail stuff
so as to protect the wood chippers from breathing poison oak:
But, pulling out a few dozen vines out of a brush pile was
a trivially easy task, and, was basically the gift wrapping
for the wood chippers to make life just a bit safer for them:
They were scheduled for yesterday, but, maybe they'll come today.
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