Cash4Clunkers - see a Corvette die

[George]

no but u would

[Oren]

"I'm not going to try to convince you".

You have time in the "beast".

Some people ought to listen, particularly from someone outside the box.

[Master Betty]

Yeah...jus trying to be funny...

If it's me that's not listening then why am I interested in making changes that don't include nationalizing? Nationanalized hc in the states is impossible and probably not necessary.

People often misunderstand my political views.

What I was talking abut:

Tort reform

Single payer (copayments are something else too- I'm for those)

Standardized software for billing offices and insurance co.

Not for profit Health insurance(limited)

[Jim Yanik]

Kurt Ullman wrote in news: [e-mail]:

No,because your work earned it.(paid for it) If your work did not earn enough to pay for it and still allow the company to make a profit,they would not employ you,aside from bad management and outside influence like unions.

the gov't counts employer-paid healthcare as income,and taxes it.

[Jim Yanik]

"Master Betty" wrote in news:h720pp$rod$ [e-mail]:

None of that in the current bills. And it's NOT going to get there,as Obama is in hock to the lawyers.

No competition,no incentive to lower costs.

Communism. No thank you.

[Kurt Ullman]

Actually we have gotten away from the main concern have with this whole thread. There was a Corvette with only a $4500 trade in value??? Someone got took.

[HeyBub]

From just today:

"Thousands of women are having to give birth outside [UK] maternity wards because of a lack of midwives and hospital beds."

[HeyBub]

That's a gross overstatement! Government programs shrink and disappear all the time.

The last was just the other day: The Civil Aeronautics Administration was subsumed by the FAA in 1958.

[Jim Yanik]

Kurt Ullman wrote in news:kurtullman- [e-mail]:

Definitely.

and the Corvette can still have a new motor installed. small block Chevy's are plentiful.Install a new EFI motor and you'd probably get good mileage.

I wonder,what year was the Vette?

[norminn]

It would help if the reader had at least minimal understanding of hospital maternity units. We don't build specialized hospital units to accomodate the maximum number of patients possible - they are to accomodate the most likely need. This goofy article mentions women giving birth on toilets....that does happen now and then, but more likely in a high-school or college dorm. Giving birth in a bed outside of the standard delivery room is no biggy - loads of women in the US give birth at home BY CHOICE. During a full moon, strange things happen :o)

[HeyBub]

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Then the factotums in charge of the NHS are evidently no better at arithmetic than they are at managing care. Of course the managers of the local trust can report to their betters that "We have never exceeded our capacity!"

"[Home birth] by loads of women by choice?" Maybe two dozen a year in a country with ten times the population of the UK*. And whereas midwives are a staple in the UK, they are used only by the fringe in the US.

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• Actually 8% according to the National Center for Health Statistics.

[HeyBub]

A bit more is required. The VIN is entered as "junked - cannot be titled" You'd have to swipe a VIN plate off a righteous car.

[Master Betty]

Not communisim. BCBS started as Non-profit.

But thanks for seeing the crux of "my" issue. :-)

IMHO

[Kurt Ullman]

As a start. See the article below about cloning a car. I am interested to see when the first cloned CfC shows up.

[Jim Yanik]

"Master Betty" wrote in news:h73l7m$qon$ [e-mail]- september.org:

But BCBS has -competitors- in the private arena,while ObamaCare is intended to be "single payer",eliminating any competition.

it's communist because you are anti-profit. You wish to FORCE healthcare to be non-profit,by taking it out of private hands and putting it in the hands of wasteful inefficient government.

[Douglas Johnson]

Sorry, no. In almost every other case, employee benefits, including salary, is tax deductible to the employer and taxable to the employee.

There are two exceptions which are tax deductible to the employer and not taxable to the employee: The employer's FICA and Medicare contributions and health insurance.

Oh, there are a couple of other minor exceptions such as uniforms and meals provided to the employee for the employer's benefit.

-- Doug

[Stormin Mormon]

Oh, I'm so sorr..... hey, wait, this is usenet. You're a stinky purple flurpy!