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Yes those of us who are old enough, educated enough and informed enough to
recall the Carter years when we first started kissing radical Islamic butt
and the Nixon-Ford period preceding that will miss and mourn the passing of
a president who restored the presidency to its proper stature.
Love him or hate the man was a LEADER.
He fueled the recovery that Clinton took the credit for. Those wonderful
90's were a gift from Reagan and his much ridiculed voodoo economics.
And after 30 some years of kissing Islamic butt I am proud that we have a
president who has kicked some.
Not to mention bursting the inflation balloon and canning the air
controllers who violated their contracts by striking. Que vaya bien...
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And Reagan and company not only KISSED butts, but ARMED the attached
radicals. I'm old enough, educated enough and informed enough to
remember the IRAN-CONTRA SCANDAL, a giant step toward subverting the
checks and balances in the U.S.Constitution. Thanks [for NOTHING],
The Iran Contra Scandal
This is a timeline of various events in the scandal history I found on
the Internet. I think some of the dates may be off, and I know there are
fairly big holes in it (like when North testifies and gets convicted or
when the first reports of the scandal are reported). I hope to fill in
the gaps soon.
Oct. -According to unproven allegations, the Reagan-Bush campaign makes
secret pact with Iran to delay release of the Embassy hostages until
after the November election, in return for future covert arms sales.
This theory is known as the 'October surprise.'
Jan 20 -- Hostages held in the American Embassy in Iran released. Reagan
takes oath of office.
July -- An Israeli official suggests a deal with Iran to then-national
security adviser Robert McFarlane, saying the transfer of arms could
lead to release of Americans being held hostage in Lebanon. McFarlane
brings the message to President Reagan.
Aug. 30 -- The first planeload of U.S.-made weapons is sent from Israel
to Tehran. Two weeks later the first American Hostage is released.
Dec. 5 -- Reagan secretly signs a presidential 'finding,' or
authorization, describing the operation with Iran as an
Jan. 17 -- Reagan signs a finding authorizing CIA participation in the
sales and ordering the process kept secret from Congress.
April -- Then-White House aide Oliver North writes a memo outlining
plans to use $12 million in profits from Iran arms sales for Contra aid.
Nov. 5 -- Bush records in his diary "On the news at this time is the
question of the hostages ... I'm one of the few people that know fully
the deatails ... it is not a subject we can talk about ...."
Nov 13 -- Bush's diary: "I remember Watergate. I remember the way things
oozed out. It is important to be level, to be honest, to be direct. We
are not saying anything."
Nov. 25 -- Attorney General Edwin Meese III discloses to the public that
$10 million to $30 million in arms-sale profits were diverted to the
Contras. Bush's diary: "The administration in disarray -- foreign policy
in disarray -- cover-up -- who knew what when?..."
Jan 1 -- Bush's diary "These so-called findings on Iran -- I'll be
honest -- I don't remember any of them, and I don't believe that they
were even signed by the president, frankly. But sometimes there are
meetings over in the White House with Shultz, NSC guy [McFarlane? -ed],
Casey and Weinberger, and they make some decisions that the president
signs off on. ... And the facts are that the Vice President is not in
the decision making loop."
May 11 -- McFarlane testifies to Congress that Reagan instructed his
staff in 1984 to find ways around the congressional ban on U.S. military
aid to the Contras.
Jan -- Just before Reagan leaves office, the White House computer is
purged of data, which is backed-up to tape. About two-dozen tapes
mysteriously disappear once the aides have finished.
July 25 -- U.S. District Judge Harold Greene dismisses theft and wire
fraud charges against Poindexter. Poindexter remains charged with
conspiracy, two counts of obstructing Congress and two counts of making
Feb. 5 -- Greene orders Reagan to give a unusual videotaped testimony
and immediately turn over 33 excerpts from his diaries. The former
president invokes constituionally questionable doctrine of executive
privilege, made famous by Richard Milhous Nixon. On the videotape he
says he never had "any inkling" that his aides were arming the Contras.
April 7 -- Poindexter is convicted of all five charges.
Feb. 28 -- Poindexter appeals all five convictions.
June 16 -- Former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger is indicted on
five felony counts of obstruction of justice, perjury and making false
Aug. 26 -- Because of a hung jury, U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth
declares a mistrial in the case of CIA officer Clair George, accused of
concealing from Congress his knowledge of the Iran-Contra affair.
Nov. 26 -- Duane Clarridge, ex-head of the CIA's Western European
Division, is indicted for allegedly lying about his knowledge of
Dec. 9 -- George is convicted of lying to Congress about the affair in
1986. He becomes the highest-ranking CIA spook yet convicted of felonies
committed in the name of duty.
Dec. 24 -- President Bush grants pardons to Weinberger, former assistant
secretary of State Elliott Abrams, Clarridge, Fiers, George and
If the worst people can find to say about Reagan is that he sold arms
to supposed moderates in Iran to save Americans being held hostage in
Lebanon and then used the money to fund people fighting for their
freedom from communists in Nicaragua, then I don't think he has much
to worry about up in heaven.
Yes he does. The after-life powers that be are still going to want to know
why 2.8 million people world wide had to die of aids before he would even
take action in the USA, let alone force a testing of the blood supply.
Remember those infamous words from the Reagan expose movie? "Those that
live in sin should die in sin"
Ronnie was just a face man. I blame him for nothing, he was worked like a
puppet on a string. Rather like the CIC we have now.
No comparison with the current administration. Ronnie could at least
talk and act human. Bush can do NOTHING on his own, never has an
original thought, and more importantly, he just plain doesn't care
about this world we live in, since he's in another world altogether..
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:28:04 GMT, "Lost-In-Translation"
If I recall correctly, there is no evidence he ever said: "Those that
live in sin should die in sin". I believe that is pure speculation on
part of those that didn't like him. Isn't that called slander?
I did respect Reagan, even if I didn't fully embrace his political
direction. I sure wish I could say the same for the current
President, who I have ZERO (can you have MINUS??) respect for. I've
been around for nearly 60 years and never thought I'd ever say that,
but Bush Jr. has done it to me--the worst President in our history, as
history will certainly reveal more fully as time progresses.
The Reagan years are looking all the more appealing in this sad era!
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:34 -0400, "Colbyt"
you are allowed to have your opinion. others have gone to battle for it in
the past. what have you done to earn it? The economy is now growing at a
rate amongst the fastest in history. Check today's news...unemployment is
disappearing. You won't see alot about it because the news tends to only
show the negatives during a Republican office. How many times has it shown
US forces doing GOOD things in Iraq? They only show the things that
discredit this administration. You need to do more than just watch the
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:37:24 GMT, "Lost-In-Translation"
You do yourself a dis-service making up little "cutsey" names for
these people. You have good points but seem more like a 12 year old
trying to get back at Sally Sue than an adult trying to make a valid
Good Riddance to a Horse's Ass.....As governor of Calif he doubled our
state's sales tax from 3% to 6%, expanded the bureaucracy. opened the
doors of our mental hospitals and let out all the loonies to live on our
streets, and still managed to spend the state into a deficit for the
next governor to get stuck with
AND he did the same with the federal deficit
A typical conservative politician...say one thing, do the opposite and
have the public bend over
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