Today I got connected to internet telephone service for my home -
the old land line still has dial tone but only gets the
"not connected" message when used.
The hub that the internet company provides has only one RJ-11 phone
port - but four < 3 unused > RJ-45 LAN ports.
What is my easiest route to connect my 3 or 4 home telephones
to the new system ?
1. go to the interface box on the outside wall of my house and
disconnect the incoming Bell line ; then run a new phone line from
here to the hub ? < the hub needs to be located centrally in the
house - not near the Bell interface >
2. other ideas ?
Thanks in advance. John T.
But I need to get all the home phones - somehow - into the single
port on the hub ... doing it "en masse" via the interface seemed
most efficient - but I'm no expert, to say the least - so I'm
looking for ideas ..
On 5/11/2016 5:03 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You don't need to go *to* the interface. Every phone jack in your home already
goes there! All you need to do is sever the phone company's connection to
your house. I.e., "unplug the RJ11" that's in the TNI box.
Then, just find a nearby jack to pick up the EXISTING wiring to those
(Note that if the closest jack is in use with a phone, you can buy one
of those little "Y connectors" that lets you connect two PHONES
(or a phone+answering machine) to a single jack. The Y adapter
won't care whether "you" are a phone, answering machine OR a VoIP
"Wire is wire"
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-4, email@example.com wrote:
Yes, one way is to do what you said. Disconnect the house wiring
from the phone company at the box and run a wire from the new hub
to the house phone wiring. Or if there is a house phone jack near the
hub, disconnect the phone company at the box, then run a wire from
the house jack to the hub.
Another way would be to put the hub where you have a cordless phone
base station and just use cordless in the house. That's what I did.
You can get a new 4 phones plus answering machine for $50
When I got cable phone, I had a multi-handset cordless phone, and put
the base there their adapter (called a MTA) was going. The company
(Suddenlink) insisted on sending an installer just to plug it in and
that's all I let him do. After the old phone line quit working (it took
almost a day), I disconnected the incoming phone line and used the
existing wiring to connect other phones.
Make sure you never have the new phone adapter connected to the old
On 5/11/2016 4:43 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Presumably, all that same "number"?
You need to see what the VoIP gateway is capable of driving before
you saddle it with 4 loads. At the very least, you will need to
verify how many "REN's" (Ringer Equivalence Numbers) it can drive.
Then, examine each of your "3 or 4 home telephones" to see what sort
of REN's each represents. If your loads exceed the capabilities of
the VoIP gateway, you'll have to take other steps to make them work.
The obvious other option is just to disconnect TPC from your interface
box (so YOU aren't trying to push signal OUT onto the incoming line).
Then, run a RJ11 cable from the VoIP gateway to the nearest "telephone
jack" inside your home. It will be wired to all of the other, similar,
jacks throughout your home.
If they made provisions for TWO lines to come into your home
(often on an unused pair of a 2-6 pair cable), then you can also try
to chase down the uncommitted end of that cable and use it as a vector
onto the "used" pair).
Again, disconnecting the phone company from your home AT the network
interface for the reason outlined above.
Taking into account the REN situation that Don mentions, his second
option is exactly what I did when we gave up our landline in favor of
our cellular phones. We bought a Siemens Gigaset which connects via
Bluetooth to our cell phones whenever we are in range (our model will
accept up to three cell phones and port them to the hardwired home phone
system. All we do is plug in a single RJ11 cable from the Gigaset to
the nearest telephone jack and we were done. The Gigaset gives us
incoming and outgoing call capabilities on all three lines through a
Panasonic cordless phone with FOUR extensions and an POTS or two
scattered throughout the house. We do not miss the landline at all.
On Wed, 11 May 2016 19:14:10 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
Thanks for the ideas - much appreciated.
I'm leaning toward the cordless phone option ..
We have a 2-phone cordless now - buy another & a Y-adapter
or replace with a 4 phone set ...
I just hate the idea of scrapping these gadgets every 5 years !
... my 3 home phones are all 20 years old & working fine.
On 5/11/2016 7:39 PM, email@example.com wrote:
John, if you follow through in the manner that Don, I and others suggest
you can pretend that you're still bent over and taking it from Ma
Bell/AT&T and buy what you want to use in the house, when you want to
buy it. That said, the quality of the newer 5ghz cordless phones is
really quite good. As I said, we miss landlines not at all.
On 5/11/2016 5:39 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
SWMBO *prefers* the cordless phones as they have a speakerphone
option. She'd much rather hold the phone in her lap and talk normally
than have to hold it up to her ear.
I keep a (genuine) "trimline" phone hanging in the closet
as a fallback. And, the "long range" cordless base there
[I've been migrating everything over to VoIP *inside* the house...
but still tethered to a land-line service! The magic of PSTN
gateways! :> ]
When I first switched to VOIP, I simply disconnected the incoming cable
from the phone company and fed back through the existing phone wiring in
the house. It worked fine.
However, somewhere down the line I had a problem with the phone wiring in
the house. I have numerous cables running indoors and a few to outbuildings
as well. Rather than fuss with tracking down the wiring problem, I just
abandoned the wires and bought a cordless phone system. The base unit
connects directly to my VOIP adapter, and all the other handsets are
wireless. I can move them anywhere in the house, even if there are no phone
You might check to see if additional handsets are still available for your
existing phone system. I bought an extra handset for my Panasonic so I
could have a phone out in the garage. I got the part number right off one
of the existing handsets.
Otherwise, a new phone system is relatively inexpensive and will bring
everything up to modern standards.
On Wed, 11 May 2016 20:39:15 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Sometimes you can buy more extensions for the current phone. In my
case it was cheaper to buy a whole second phone with a base station
and a cordless phone, or maybe I bought that one first, but at least 3
extensions work with either base station (which has either a corded or
One of the buttons to answer the phone is taking a little extra
pressure and I should buy a spare before they're all gone from ebay.
I haved one phone that is 50 years old and working fine, though it's
hard to get to and rarely used, and another phone that's 60 or 70
years old and works fine. I'd put it in the living room but there's
no jack and hard to ilnstall. ...Wait, that must be why I bought the
wireless jack. But the phones I use are about 10 y.o.
I have a 3-handset cordless phone that allows up to 10 handsets. I
looked on the internet for extra handsets and they cost so much I was
better off buying another system (and that comes with an extra base, too).
I think the reasoning is that:
- not many people (relatively speaking) want extra bases (so, quantities
are lower, shelf space gets wasted on products with low turnover, etc.)
- people who want more, can *afford* to pay more (for the convenience
of having interchangeable handsets)
Be careful running multiple bases concurrently. Some may not like this.
On 05/13/2016 01:09 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
With some of the older (pre-900MHz?) cordless phones, you had to
exchange it with one that used a different channel if you had
interference. IIRC, 900MHz devices let you change the channel. Later
ones should automatically find a clear channel.
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