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>>> Actually I'm surprised that you believe in technology at all, even in >>> the respect of HVAC. >> >> No, actually, you're the one that believes in imaginary things. >> >> I think you better go to an HVAC school before you *think* you know more >> than we do. >> >> Where's that condenser coil mounted again. LMAO >> > He actually runs a maid service. Apparently, he'll come to your house, and suck your bed off. Then he gives it the once over with a germicidal lamp. He then gives you a bottle of magic spray (that's what he calls called Anti-Alergen spray) to deal with the leftover bits and pieces of what he says kilt with the UV-C light. http://homeenvirohealth.com/homeenvirohealth_005.html > > By his own explanation earlier here, the UV-C turns the bad stuff into dust. So, he should be sucking the bed off after he makes dust out of all the goodies left on the mattress - if not before and after. Of course, if he were to read up on the subject, REAL studies done have shown that most of the mites live deeply in the mattress, so the magic UV light can't even get to them. Maybe he just uses it like a blacklight to see who's been doing who...... > > > http://www.acaai.org/public/advice/dust.htm > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html > Your talking about the mattresses now. I as only talking about HVAC prior. They are two different applications. But again you like to argue and think you right when you have no idea what your talking about. The mattress aspect has been on the news and used in Europe for 30 years. Th UV-C Light will penetrate a mattress deep enough to kill, mold, mildew, viruses, bacterias, dust mite eggs and it alters the DNA of the dust mites as in other micro- organisms so that they are unable to reproduce and eventually will die as well. The vacuum is to extract as much as possible so the UV-C light is more effective and to rid the areas of as many dust mites as possible. The spray is produced by a major corporation that is use as maintenance between cleaning for control. You might want to read more about a topic before you present such strong opinions. You might want to read more on my website to learn more about real studies, since you were so kind enough to point it out. I never said it turns the bad stuff to dust is will disintegrate them. You really do need some help.
BELOW ARE THE WEBSITES THAT YOU LISTED ABOVE. BELOW EACH OF THE WEBSITES IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE READ THERE. CAN YOU READ? DO YOU KNOW HOW TO? YOU JUST KEEP GOING MAKING IGNORANT STATEMENTS AND CLAIM THAT I NEED TO READ UP ON THE SUBJECT. NOT THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU NEED HOW TO READ AND EXPRESS AN OPINION WHEN AND ONLY WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. FIRST USE YOU BRAIN THEN SPEAK OR TYPE. UNTIL THEN STOP STATING THINGS ABOUT ME THAT ARE NOT TRUE. I HAVE RESEARCHED AND I CONTINUE TO DO SO AND I DON'T PASS COMMENTS OR MAKE STATEMENTS UNLESS I AM 100% THAT I KNOW WITH FACTS ABOUT WHAT I SAY. YOU MIGHT TRY THE SAME.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
HABITS AND HABITATS
Dust mites do not live in air ducts in homes. Many people spend much time and money cleaning the air ducts to reduce dust mites. This is not necessary because dust mites need about 70 percent relative humidity or higher to live, and they need food. Areas where people spend much time, like a bed or a favorite plush chair, are prime sites for dust mites. The **** top part of mattresses containing fibrous material is a favorite place for dust mites during warm and humid times. The ** deeper parts of mattresses may provide protected areas for the dust mites during unfavorable conditions. Clothing is used by dust mites as a means of transportation from room to room or even from house to house.
CONTROL
**** Vacuum often with a vacuum cleaner provided with a high efficiency purifying air (HEPA) filtration system. Throw away vacuum bags after use because dust mites can leave the bag.
http://www.acaai.org/public/advice/dust.htm <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
What are dust mites? Tiny microscopic creatures called dust mites are an important cause of allergic reactions to house dust. They belong to the family of eight-legged creatures called arachnids. This family also includes spiders, chiggers and ticks. Dust mites are hardy creatures that live well and ** multiply easily in warm, humid places. They prefer temperatures at or above 70F with a relative humidity of 75-80 percent and die when the humidity falls below 40-50 percent. They are rarely found in dry climates.
As many as ** 10 percent of the general population and *** 90 percent of people with allergic asthma are sensitive to dust mites. *****Recent studies in the United States suggest that at least 45 percent of young people with asthma are allergic to dust mites.
People who are allergic to dust mites react to proteins in the bodies and feces of the mites. ***** These fecal particles are found in the highest concentrations in pillows, mattresses, carpeting, and upholstered furniture. They float into the air when anyone vacuums, walks on a carpet or disturbs bedding, but settle out of the air once the disturbance is over. Dust mite-allergic people who inhale these particles frequently experience allergy symptoms. In fact, a dust mite allergic patient who sleeps for 8 hours every night spends one third of his life with his nose in direct contact with a pillow loaded with dust mite particles!
There may be many as 19,000 dust mites in one gram of dust, but usually between 100 to 500 mites live in each gram. (A gram is about the weight of a paper clip.) Each mite produces about 10-20 waste particles per day and lives for 30 days. Egg-laying females can add 25-30 new mites to the population during their lifetime.
**** Mites eat particles of skin and dander, so they thrive in places where there are people. Dust mites don't bite, cannot spread diseases and usually do not live on people. They are harmful only to people who become allergic to them. While usual household insecticides have no effect on dust mites, there are ways to reduce exposure to dust mites in the home.
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
Sanitation
The application of frequent vacuuming as a dust control measure is more likely to aggravate allergic asthmatic conditions because **** conventional vacuums are very "inefficient." Dust collection by conventional vacuums results in a significant increase in air borne dust concentrations. Vacuuming is best accomplished by cleaners that entrain dust into a "liquid medium" such as water (rather than a dust bag), which reduces the suspension and dissemination of allergenic dust particles in the air. Some pest control firms sell ***** air purifiers to eliminate the food source of house dust mites. Air purifiers emit a low level of ozone (activated oxygen). Ozone attaches to fungus, mold, and bacteria on skin flakes. Machines sell for around $625 and last up to 15 years. About the size of a bread box, an area up to 2,500 square feet is protected. There is no maintenance required other than a thorough cleaning once every three to four months. The air purifier is placed near a return for air conditioning or heating system or centrally located within the home.
Various types of air purifiers can be attached to the central air return to decrease irritants. Most filters remove 50 to 70 percent of material. HEPA filters will remove up to 99 percent of the material. Indoor air quality is very important. (One needs to bring in fresh outside air rather than recirculating dirty air.) Some filters need to be changed monthly.
Some feel it is important to focus on decreasing indoor humidity, especially during the winter period to reduce dust mite populations. One might forsake humidifier use during winter periods, use of dehumidifiers during high-humidity periods, or use of central air conditioning. Effective control of mites would require the maintenance of relative humidities below 50 percent (mites thrive in humid conditions).
Chemical Control
No pesticides are currently labeled for house dust mites. **** However, two non-pesticide products, Acarosan and Allergy Control Solution are available for treatment of house dust mites and their allergens. The active ingredient of each is benzyl benzoate and tannic acid. Benzoic acid esters, such as benzyl benzoate, are very effective acaricides in both laboratory and field evaluations. Health risks appear to be slight as benzoates are rapidly metabolized in the body to hippuric acid, which is excreted in the urine. Most acaricidal studies for house dust mite control have been done in Europe. Before pesticide recommendations are made in the United States, approval will be needed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). For additional information, telephone 1-800-7ASTHMA.
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Dear Home Enviro Health Specialists:
On Jun 7, 5:47 am, Home Enviro Health Specialists
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Note: Ozone is very bad for asthmatics, as it is for dust mites. It is also hard on things like sponge rubber (such as used in mattresses), causing premature failure. Some rubbers scission (get sticky) and some crosslink (get harder / brittle).

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Humidity control is important in sterilizing organisms with a gas (such as ozone). You need / want the organisms viable when the gas is applied, to minimize the amount of gas necessary to get through their defenses. When sterilizing medical goods with ethylene oxide, the product to be sterilized is immersed in a warm humid environment for a period of time, to get the spore coats to open up and the "soft tissues" exposed. It will be no less important when using ozone.
It might be important to use the "ozone air purifier" on a timer, so that it only comes on periodically, say when no one (important) is home.
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dlzc wrote:

How ozone producing lamps are effective is that the saturate a room with 01 Ions. Most pathogens, contain water(H2O) in there structure when the O1 looks to complete a compound such as H2o, when they connect they will create H2O2 which is Hydrogen Peroxide, which will all know will kill germs. Once a room is saturated and all of the germs attached to the o1 Ions, they are now in the area saturating the air so since there are no longer any germs to kill to they begin to scrub the air as quick sand would do if you were to fall in it. There is no friction so they force particulates in the air (dust, dander and pollen) to the floor where they can be vacuumed up. The downside to ozone is that is an an irritant so you must be careful to put the correct application for the size of the room. Even then they could still irritate some people. The federal government had set a standard the no ozone producing you can exceed .05 part per billion and they say it is a safe standard.
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Dear Home Enviro Health Specialists:
On Jun 7, 8:51 am, Home Enviro Health Specialists

No. Ozone and NOx are the semi-stable forms that can be verified to be present in a room. The half-life of ions in air is such that they do not survive exiting the $600 "electric room deodorizer".

Organisms contain water in their structure. Unfortunately, the tiny amounts produced by a $600 room deodorizer will be entirely ineffective against an organism this is not transpiring... something that it does when conditions are favorable for growth. Your best hope is to have some humidity present in the air when ozone is being applied.

... as does ozone. Organisms have methods to protect themselves from H2O2, of limited scope and duration... but protection nevertheless.

Wrong. The "ions" find the organisms (and other targets).

Electric room air deodorizers do not have tractor beams. They are not capable of lofting organisms into the air so that they can be selectively captured. Or captured and dropped.

The organisms did not change position due to the effect of oxidizers.

Some *posts* irritate me.

For now.
How they will apply this limit to the ozone produced by white blood cells in fighting infection remains to be seen.
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dlzc wrote:

Dave educate me I have no idea what your talking about.
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What he's talking about is that it's a _very_old_ proven technology to place an acne-infected teenager inside the return air plenum in order to sanitize and clean the evaporator coils. With sufficient nutrients - mostly sugars, starches, and lipids - the cleaning system works rapidly.
You don't need non-producing ozone lights.
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

I must admit that I never did hear of this, but I am here to learn. I will try to research this to have a better understanding. OK, so every tech. needs to have either a acne-infected teenager inside the return air plenum (for how long does this child need to be there) or place sufficient nutrients - mostly sugars, starches, and lipids (will they not decay and rot eventually? not to mention grow mold) to sanitize and clean the evaporator coils. That's a solution? I think the UV-C is just as effective if not more with less complication, but then again I could be wrong.
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Dear Home Enviro Health Specialists:
On Jun 7, 12:31 pm, Home Enviro Health Specialists
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Which part?
white blood cells and ozone: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19025555.400?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=samplemg19025555.400 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone#Physiology_of_ozone
And I was merely pointing out that the FDA will have to issue citations to our white blood cells... an attempt at a joke.
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Go away salesboy.....
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Mo Hoaner wrote:

The intelligent answer I should have expected.
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Smartboy.... Fix your adline. There is no word "bacterias" If it's a plural you're going for, it's bacteria.
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Mo Hoaner wrote:

Better? See I knew someday i would eventually benefit from you infinite wisdom. Thank You.
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