On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:04:47 -0400, Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
For Christ's sakes(tm), we're talking about a person's OWN URINE, not using
everyone elses. If YOU are healthy YOUR OWN urine is TOTALLY SAFE TO USE.
Research it for Pete's sakes. No healthy person has ever died from
ingesting their own urine. Period. End of story. There is NOTHING in the urine
of a healthy person that can harm or kill them. NOTHING.
God damn it some of you are thick as hell.
Yep. we all put manure from antibiotic-loaded farm animals. Nothing
happens. We get rodents, who carry deadly viruses, relieving them in
the garden. Birds flying overhead and hitting the lettuce. Nothing
happens. Then one guy pees in the garden, the anal retentive part of
the group is up in arms.
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No, P, he wouldn't, because craziness is not infectious, fortunately.
But thanks for a good tip on how to get compost heaps turned over for
free; I'll just pin a little sign on it saying "meth lab staff
AIDS is not transmittable in urine. Why not go all out and do like
they do in a lot of foreign countries, and justuse all of the waste
products, just pump that septic tank right out on the lawn and garden
When I was in Korea, we had a row of porta potties set up along the
military base perimeter fence line. There was perhaps 20 of them, and
every day old pappa san would come in and pumpout these porta potties,
and go outside the fence to his rice paddy and crop area and literally
pump all this waste onto his crops. He had some mighty fine looking
crops, however I would certainly not eat them. Its common for 3rd
world countries to use human waste for fertilizer. Even that clown
Jerry Baker the master of all master gardeners uses urine in his so
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Possibly, & it should perhaps be thought of as a "soil ammendment" -- most
of which would destroy the value of soils if used in excess.
Urea crystals happen to be a normal component of the majority of
commercial composts, so really nothing untoward so far as that goes.
However, any spot that gets pissed in a lot will encourage hazardous
bacteria which stink to high heaven & can carry pathogens. It is a red
herring that fresh urine is usually fairly sterile & harmless; as soon as
it hits the compost heap it is no longer safe to drink, & it encourages
ugly-ass types of funguses besides potentianally hazardous bacteria.
There is a Humanure Handbook that tells how to recycle human waste into
the garden, but neither an open pile nor a sess pool is quite the proper
method. The handbook is available free as e-text:
There's a chapter on home-made composting toilets. Here's an additional
nice little page on composting toilets as "the Rolls Royce of toilets":
and lots of info here:
-paghat the ratgirl
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"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
Amazing some of the tangents we get off on here on rec.gardens, isn't it?
Urine has been used for hundreds of years in this and other capacities. The
key is moderation -- if one urinates on the compost pile several times a day
repeatedly for several days then it will destroy the pile eventually. The
idea is to help get things rolling in the pile -- just as easily
accomplished by sprinkling some bloodmeal over your pile after adding a
substantial amount of material.
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