Roundup to kill daylilies in raspberry patch?

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I've got some old daylilies that keep coming back in my raspberry patch and I don't know what to do about them. I can't dig them out without uprooting all the raspberry canes. Although I've always had an organic garden I'd like to try hitting them with Roundup but I am wondering if it will kill the raspberries as well, since they are both spreading plants and completely intertwined.
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Diane Whitney wrote:

Get a foam paintbrush and apply a little Roundup concentrate to the daylily leaves with that. Don't get any on the raspberries. I do that with dandelions or perennial grasses that come up in the middle of other plants.
There are a few herbicides that will be released in the soil when the affected plant dies and poison the surrounding plants (mostly broadleaf weed killer, I think), but Roundup is not one of 'em.
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And how much larger are raspberry bushes than day lillies?
You poison dandelions? Lord Almighty child, what's wrong with you?
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Taraxacum+officinale Taraxacum officinale - Weber.
Dandelion
A very nutritious food, 100g of the raw leaves contain about 2.7g. protein, 9.2g. carbohydrate, 187mg Calcium, 66mg phosphorus, 3.1mg iron, 76mg sodium, 397mg potassium, 36mg magnesium, 14000iu vitamin A, 0.19mg vitamin B1, 0.26mg vitamin B2, 35mg vitamin C[173]. Root - raw or cooked[5, 9, 12, 183]. Bitter. A turnip-like flavour[159]. Flowers - raw or cooked[102, 159]. A rather bitter flavour[K], the unopened flower buds can be used in fritters[183] and they can also be preserved in vinegar and used like capers[7]. Both the leaves and the roots are used to flavour herbal beers and soft drinks such as 'Dandelion and Burdock'[238]. The roots of 2 year old plants are harvested in the autumn, dried and roasted to make a very good coffee substitute[2, 4, 5, 12, 54, 159]. It is caffeine-free[213]. A pleasant tea is made from the flowers[12, 102]. They are also used to make wine - all green parts should be removed when making wine to prevent a bitter flavour[238]. The leaves and the roots can also be used to make tea.
Medicinal Uses
Aperient; Cholagogue; Depurative; Diuretic; Hepatic; Laxative; Stomachic; Tonic; Warts.
The dandelion is a commonly used herbal remedy. It is especially effective and valuable as a diuretic because it contains high levels of potassium salts and therefore can replace the potassium that is lost from the body when diuretics are used[238]. All parts of the plant, but especially the root, are slightly aperient, cholagogue, depurative, strongly diuretic, hepatic, laxative, stomachic and tonic[4, 7, 9, 21, 54, 165, 176, 222, 238]. The root is also experimentally cholagogue, hypoglycaemic and a weak antibiotic against yeast infections[222]. The dried root has a weaker action[222]. The roots can be used fresh or dried and should be harvested in the autumn when 2 years old[4]. The leaves are harvested in the spring when the plant is in flower and can be dried for later use[9]. A tea can be made from the leaves or, more commonly, from the roots[213]. The plant is used internally in the treatment of gall bladder and urinary disorders, gallstones, jaundice, cirrhosis, dyspepsia with constipation, oedema associated with high blood pressure and heart weakness, chronic joint and skin complaints, gout, eczema and acne[238]. The plant has an antibacterial action, inhibiting the growth of Staphylococcus aureus, Pneumococci, Meningococci, Bacillus dysenteriae, B. typhi, C. diphtheriae, Proteus etc[176]. The latex contained in the plant sap can be used to remove corns, warts and verrucae[7]. The latex has a specific action on inflammations of the gall bladder and is also believed to remove stones in the liver[7]. A tea made from the leaves is laxative[222].
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My husband used to try to poison dandelions, but I threw a fit until he let me remove them by hand. And then he discovered dandelion wine. Now, not only does he love dandelions, but he even leaves the very biggest and best ones in the yard so that next year's crop will be better! --S.
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Youngsters nowadays......
Why poison daylilies? All parts of the common daylily are edible.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4466550_eat-daylily-hemerocallis-fulva.html
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Santos hermano, if food doesn't come wrapped in plastic with a price tag on it, these young'uns would starve to death. Food and medicine, and they can't see it.
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Blind Trust in the system that is primarily capital oriented. Taught in our education system as best practice. If the idea that food is the best medicine ever hits the TV many capital ventures would rot away. If food is the best med how do we get the best food. Fresh is a lot more than use by date. My answer small commerce. Small is beautiful obviously had a small audience. Schmacher (sp) thanks for the vision.
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....tain't gonna hit the airwaves in any big way, won't make any impact anyway.......
Hey, my friend. Is the sun shining? My boys turned me on to a happy dancing song......makes happy happy feets and happy happy insides...........

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While I dance I cannot judge, I cannot hate, I cannot separate myself from life. I can only be joyful and whole. That is why I dance.
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"A man may esteem himself happy when that which is his food is also his medicine." -Henry David Thoreau
Once again we find wisdom in the truths spoken by the Elders.
Is it possible to "uneducate" the masses and instill any common sense in the vacuum that would remain?
I see our monsatano rep has shown up in this thread to try and quiet any doubts that may have been sown about poison. He's also going to work on Tim, who appears to be a possible initiate into the dark side.
Charlie (two quotes for the price of one today)
"Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food."---- Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
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Charlie wrote:

Come on...I didn't even post today, how can I get in poo?
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Just gifted I suppose.
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Billy wrote:

lol...Thanks.
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Poo is a good thing to be in, my friend! ;-) This here organic gardening thing is a "Dirty Job" (credit to Mike Rowe).
I was referencing Rick nospam, who was trying to convince you that osmocote is an "organic" product, who shows up every spring and berates those of us who oppose the use of poisons, chemferts, and GM crops/seeds. It's his job, I think.
Heh heh....Billy and I sense a turning in your thoughts,my friend, a willingness to consider the "dark side" (as portrayed by "them") .....we'll keep at ya until you break. ;-)
Charlie
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Charlie wrote:

LOL
Oh gawd.... That was bad.... Lookie, IF I had the space, I'd have a mulch/compost pile. I used too, but that was a different wife er...life ago..I used to have raised beds, a compost pile, and several different flower beds..Alas, all is changed, and I can only have a few pots....I live in a campground during the growing season, and they frown on such things as digging. I'm lucky they don't complain about the water I use.
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Yeah, I kinda agree witcha......

Try fish emulsion for your fert needs. I use it in all my potted veggies.
Charlie
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Make that Alaska or Organic fish emulsion. Lots of toxic fish floating around these days.
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Thanks. My understanding was that daylilies use a fair amount of water and so I assume that they are competing for resources. It's a very small raspberry patch, about 8 by 8 feet, and these are not pretty flowering daylilies because they don't have the room. Instead it's just the foliage interspersed with the canes. I was just worried that the herbicide would somehow migrate to the raspberries because they are so intertwined and couldn't find an answer to that on the Roundup web site.
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Diane Whitney

Roundup won't migrate, as has been said. However, it is pretty hard to kill any bulb plant with any pesticide as they have large reserves. Is it possible to just keep trimming (cut off leaves at ground level) the day lilies? After a few trims they will use all their food stores and die. It may be more effective than the roundup (which, BTW, I use for control of invasives).
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