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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:04:32 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Leave him be Dave, he's using the (probably fixable) pink tinge as hook to hang the spending a couple of grand on a power hungry 42" plasma screen.
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On 2008-06-05 23:08:55 +0100, "Dave Liquorice"

.. and hoping that his wife doesn't read Usenet while holding a carving knife.
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Couple of grand? Where have you been recently? You can get an HD ready Panasonic 42" plasma for 612 and a Full HD for 1,300. (And most Home Cinema mags reckon that the difference between Full HD and HD ready sets of 42" and below is virtually undetectable - so the 612 set would be an excellent buy). http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products/index.asp?strSearch=panasonic+42
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said:

But these mags would be the same ones that recommend O2 free cables and junk like that.

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wrote:

When you go looking at your potential new tellies, make sure that you get the salesman to demo it to you on a 'real' off-air picture at standard resolution. I have noticed that the current trend is to have these LCDs and plasmas set up in HD mode, and running from a Blu Ray demo disc in a Blu Ray DVD player. This gives a misleadingly 'good' (relatively speaking) picture. When you get it home, and start running it in non-native standard resolution from an off-air Freeview or satellite or terrestrial analogue signal, you may be very disappointed. Also, take into consideration, when choosing a set, that an 'HD Ready' sticker on it might be meaningless in terms of Freeview, since Ofcom have now decided that the additional bandwidth that was going to be allocated to allow a (limited) number of HD transmissions within a multiplex, is now not going to be, and a different form of compression is now being mooted by them, as the answer to cramming these channels into the existing allocation. As this different compression scheme will not be directly compatible with the existing 'readiness' of these sets, the manufacturers are understandably somewhat distressed by this move ...
Look at http://www.savefreeviewhd.com/page/savefreeviewhd?entry=next_generation_freeview_on_the
for instance, or put "Ofcom and Freeview HD" into Google or whatever.
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On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:54:53 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

The times I've wandered around a shed or shop with tellys on display they all appear to be fed via RF sometimes SCART but normally SD and crawling with MPEG artifacts. Rarely (make that never) have I seen full HD from Blu Ray fed correctly to all the sets on display so you could compare them properly with a true HD signal.

HD Ready is a pretty low spec anyway. "Full HD" would be better to aim for 1080 progressive or there abouts. It's a rather technical mine field out there and very easy to get bogged down in figures and and marketing puff. The important things are the native resolution of the panel, ie how many physical pixels it has and what resolutions and modes the electronics can cope with.
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Most Home Cinema mags reckon that the difference between Full HD and HD ready sets is virtually undetectable on sets of 42" screen size and below. When the new Panasonic Full HD sets came out recently, most reviewing mags said they were excellent but very little better than the earlier HD ready sets - and because of that and the big price difference, recommended buying the HD Read sets.
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http://www.savefreeviewhd.com/page/savefreeviewhd?entry=next_generation_freeview_on_the
The manufacturers are distressed by something which will require the purchase of new hardware? Pull the other one... ;-)
I could be wrong, but I thought the current FreeView system has no provision for HD. At the moment most of the minor channels transmit on reduced data rate anyway.
I've been involved in HD tests when choosing new cameras and although a sound man took a great deal of interest in it. And to be perfectly honest the difference between SD at its best and HD isn't as great as some think. Of course it's very easy to produce a demo which makes it look stunning - but on the sort of thing most view you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. But then few broadcasters make sure SD is at its best...
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A LCD or Plasma may just keep you happy until OLED TVs are commonly available:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId 551&storeId151&langId=-1&identifier=S_BrandShowcase_OLED
Wow 3mm thick!
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