Woodcraft clamp deal

I think you can comparable clamps at your local Harbor Freight store cheaper.

Thanks for the info, but I already have too many clamps. ;>}

"Cheaper", no doubt -- and I *know* where *those* came from -- it's the "comparable" part that I'm wondering about.

Both clamps at Harbor Freight and Woodcraft are not made in the US so if one is going to buy those types of clamps go for equal but cheaper price.

There's the US and then there's the rest of the world, right?

No, there is where you live and then there's the rest of the world. Whenever possible / economical you should try to support the "where you live" stuff first.

Pete C.

You should support quality above all else, economy second and nationalism dead last. If "where you live" makes the best stuff at the best prices, then by all means buy it. If they make crap at outrageous prices, buying it only encourages them to continue.

Box reads, "Made in China to Columbian specifications".

But what about the environment? Cargo ships burn a lot of fossil fuels.

No, they came on Saturday. I didn't post until Sunday morning. Even so, I was surprised to get a saturday delivery especially since I didn't pay shipping.

I believe FedEx now does home deliveries on Saturdays at no extra cost.

They do, however given the phenomenal amount of cargo they move I expect their actual efficiency is quite high especially given the fact that they don't have to stop at traffic lights and similar fuel guzzling delays. Once they leave port it's pretty much an efficient non stop cruise at optimum speed the whole way.

Pete C.

That's nice since UPS seems to have determined that a 7 day transit time is "on schedule" for a 3 day service package.

Never again, UPS is now on my permanent black list and any company that refuses to use an alternate shipper will not get my business either.

Pete C.

A lot less than trucks or trains to move the same tonnage.

So if I follow the logic less fuel is burned and less pollution is produced: making a product in Asia driving it to the dock driving a cargo ship to CA or NJ Driving it to my house

Than: making a product in Ohio driving it to my house

Do I have that right?

I suspect that, on a ton / mile basis, trains use less fuel. They aren't pushing water out of the way. They aren't fighting currents and cross winds. They haven't nearly the frictional resistance.

Bulk stuff leaving Asia for Europe will often chug across the Pacific, roll across the US, then chug across the Atlantic. Saves both time AND money.

Bill

Wierd. Seems shorter to chug through Indian ocean, up the Red Sea and through the suez canal into the Med. Maybe more fiddly though.

Chris