Worth noting again.
You occasionally see a used 36-731 sold around here, and if they don't
exactly state that the item is a "Unisaw", the implication is very strong
that what they are selling is the famous Delta "cabinet saw" of yore. AAMOF,
there was a recent example on Houston's craigslist that was so blatant that
it made you want to reply back with "buyer beware".
IRRC, isn't there an issue about using a dado stack with the stock arbor on
this Chinese import?
Not aware of that, but, did not pay a lot of attention to that for
which I was not responsible. When I worked shows, and had to represent
all, I usually would get an area sales person to brief me on
non-Tupelo units so I could talk intelligently (for me at least). This
unit was just coming out, last show I worked (Atlanta 04). There was
one in the booth, but I never had to talk it.
Keep in mind that the "Industrial" model is less of a machine because if is
Chinese... the X5 is their better one. Also it would be worth your while to
get the Biesemeyer fence for very little more than the Unifence. For a
home shop situation, I guess it doesn't reallly matter though.
| I am now ready to buy a 36-731 Delta 10" Cabinet Saw with 50"
| Unifence. I am leaning toward buying from Burns Tools which provide
| free shipment. Anyone knows where I can get a better deal?
Thanks for you and others for the suggestions. I got the impression
from various postings and website that Unifence is better than
Biesmeyer fences and they cost the same. Can you explain the pro and
con between the two? The X5 Deltas cost much more than the other
Deltas, and I always thot the premium editions are made in the USA
I have been lurking in criaglists or local sales and most Deltas are
reconditioned or heavily used etc. The different in prices are not
worth my trouble as I found out from my past experience. Shall I buy
"X5."? For your information I will be using it to remodel my house and
later use for cutting hardwoods into smaller sizes. I appreciate yours
and other advices.
> Thanks for you and others for the suggestions. I got the impression
> from various postings and website that Unifence is better than
> Biesmeyer fences and they cost the same. Can you explain the pro and
> con between the two?
I suspect the difference between the fences is purely what you learn to
use and feel comfortable using.
I have a Unifence, would not leave home without it; however, have never
used the "Bies".
BTW, suggest you support a local supplier for an item like this. The 10%
you may save buying from out of town, evaporates pretty quickly, if you
have a problem.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:29:07 GMT, email@example.com (Joe) wrote:
Have both, used both, and at one time was responsible for making both.
So here goes the pitch:
Has more features, but you may not need them. Fence can be pulled
back in front of the blade to use as a cuttoff guide with the
scale/cursor still active and accurate or to get more stability on the
feed side. Can be laid over to make a finish cut on a piece that you
have rough installed laminate. later versions have very nice stops
that give you "memory" to your set ups. Has fine tune adjustment in
all directions including perpendicularity to the table and height
above the table.
Only by comparison to Biese, a little more delicate because of cast
aluminum body and aluminum extrusion guide rail and fence.
To work the "other" side of the blade, have to pull the fence off and
put it on the other side of the body.
Bulldog tough, basic structural parts all made of steel. Easier to
clamp sacrificial face material on the fence. Fence face is laminate
over baltic birch, laminate easier to remove glue, pitch, etc. Fence
is finished both sides and can be worked both sides simply by sliding
it past the blade on the guide rail.
Doesn't have those nice features that Unifence has. Doesn't have a
perpendicularity adjustment (unless they change it, has been a while),
but the factory is Oh so careful about getting that right.
I always advised those that were doing production ripping all day long
to buy the biese. Craftman work for fine woodworking buy the
Unifence. everybody in between can flip a coin and not go wrong.
The X5 Deltas cost much more than the other
X5 and other true Unisaws are made in the USA (qualify, there are some
castings from the orient, and unless it has been changed, motor is
from Brazil). All others are made in China with the exception of the
12/14" saws which I think are still sourced from Invicta in Brazil.
In order of recommendation,1. pre 2003 Unisaw, used (with Marathon
motor),2. Current X5 or other Unisaw, 3. imported cabinet saw.
Opinions will vary a lot on this.
I represent no one but myself.
I second Lew's suggestion; a local Delta dealer can often fix problems at
your home, if you are close enough. I learned about this when I bought an
X5 drum sander from my local dealer, Syracuse Industrial Supply, and had a
minor issue with a roller on the sander. Quick, accurate, painless
service...and the price after rebate was about the same as most I'net
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:54:21 -0500, Frank Boettcher
<snip for brevity>
Your explanations are very clear and I'll go for the Biese, as I
prefer the "sacrificial face material on the fence" I can live with
Unifence too, I like the micro adjustment as some of my repeatability
cutting will save time.
If I am not mistaken many woodworkers start with Craftsman and later
graduated to a cabinet saw ahead.
I called a local stockist, they quoted me a -L31X-BC around $1,900
with $250 rebate from Delta. It includes the 50" extension table with
support, but no mobile base and that is almost the price of the other
China's made "Unisaw."
I am leaning toward the X5 after I get the blessing from SWMBO
Thanks Frank, I appreciate it.
> Your explanations are very clear and I'll go for the Biese, as I
> prefer the "sacrificial face material on the fence" I can live with
> Unifence too, I like the micro adjustment as some of my repeatability
> cutting will save time.
SFWIW, glued two (2), 3/4" (13 ply), pieces of birch ply, about 8" wide
x 36" lg, then bolted this to Unifence extrusion with S/S bolts and wing
Provides a sacrificial fence as well as a place to clamp feather boards
that serve as hold downs.
(You need 1-1/2" material thickness to take advantage of the built in
reference marks on the gauge, thus the double 3/4" requirement.)
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:14:57 GMT, "KENDALL SEYBERT"
You really can't blame buying from Internet, especially if there is
substantial saving and minus local tax. The downside will be the
freight charges and should the machines you bought is a lemon.
Thanks for your suggestion.
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