"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
Actually that was a pretty good description of it, though Stuart posted his
answer three hours earlier and my usual m.o. is to reply only to the first
one to get it correct. I'll include your description with my reply to the
Hmmm... are we all posting on different groups?
I was the first to post on rcm about it, according to the flow of the
thread. Even the times were right. How can two other people post hours
before I do, and still show my post as the first one? (no, not according
to time zones, but by Gtime.)
This puts some dissapointment factor in bothering to respond, if you
don't at least get Rob's "reward" when you're right and first.
Boy, I wish I could confirm that. According to my posting, it was the
very first post for that item. My news server won't let me retrieve more
than about two or three hours' worth of already-read posts. So I guess
my claim is moot.
I'll check next time I throw in a guess (no... I'm NOT quitting! <G>),
and make sure I have the statistics.
I'm guessing this is a news server update issue. Probably my server -
and many others - only update periodically and maybe infrequently, and
miss stuff between the time some posts are made, and the time they send
forward the messages.
Your contribution here is fun. I wouldn't just take my marbles and go
home because of something this trivial. I was just "beefin'".
Well, if I look at an unthreaded view sorted by Order Received I see the
Rob H (OP) 5/3 3:14AM
Alexander Thesoso 5:04
If I thread the view, then your 7:45 response that identifies it shows
up as a response to Leon just ahead of you in the time queue.
In this case it appears that Stu was both the first respondent overall
as well as the first to identify the electrolysis apparatus.
nntp is by definition not a lossless protocol; the dissemination is on a
more or less ad hoc basis although most servers do eventually get most
articles there's no guarantee they will receive them in the order they
were submitted altho the date stamp will remain. And, of course,
there's no checking that the posters' various clocks are in synch, either.
I generally use the 'Order received' date instead of date for a sort and
a threaded view as that tends to keep the threading more consistent but
for the above statistics it's strictly ascending order of the article
date for the thread...
So, Stu did beat you out, clearly...better luck next time. :)
(BTW, who the h-hockey sticks is up at 3 and 4 AM? I'm farming and I'm
not around that soon... :) I guess if I were milking I might be; thank
goodness for at least small favors it's not a dairy.)
No denying that... like I said, "just beefin'", which, as a farmer, you'd
understand. (posting from cattle country, where the 'girls' in the cow-calf
operation usually wake me up before the clock does).
On 5/4/2012 5:37 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Well, around here is where they end up...
And that's a very small listing of the total...the closest to the house
isn't listed w/ their capacity of about 27K on feed. They're about 3 mi
east and a mile north to the office/feed mill area; the bunks run a full
mile N-S and south end abuts the north side of the east quarter.
National Beef has one packing facility in town and two more in the SW
corner; one in Dodge and another in Garden. Excel has another faciity
in Dodge as well.
Seaboard has a large hog facility about 45 mi away in the OK panhandle
so there are a lot of pig finishers around as well.
We historically ran heifers on wheat pasture and milo stubble over the
winter and sold them as stockers in the spring w/ the exception of the
few hundred kept and fed out in our own small operation while farmed
during the summer months. Then started over in the fall. Dad retired
before I came back and the change in the markets have essentially closed
the small operations out except for those that want to feed a few for
private sale. I've chosen to stay out being at almost retirement age
That'll put you right at the north side of the feedlot. If you really
zoom in, you can probably count 'em... :)
You can't stay out here. According to one estimate (a few years ago),
North-Central Florida was the second largest beef cattle producer in the
country. We're thick with 'em. I have 20 acres ("retirement farm") and
14 acres of it runs in cow-calf. Three of the remaining six is in sod-
If you've got _any_ land at all here, it's in cows or grass or cabbage or
potatoes (about in that order). 'Can't afford the taxes, otherwise.
On 5/4/2012 7:38 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Yeah, but it rains down there... :)
14A here wouldn't support a scrawny cow, what more a cow-calf operation. :)
If you zoomed out and panned around a little, you'll have seen it's
almost all farm country except for the area on either side of the river
breaks that is native range grassland and quite a lot is irrigated.
The circles right around the feedlot are alfalfa for their use; in the
overall picture most of the irrigated ground is corn. We're dryland
wheat and milo production and grass. We have 7 quarters of own and
operator on the grass for landlords of another 4. That makes us
pretty-much small potatoes any more around here.
On 5/4/2012 8:24 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Just a little... :) Also makes a big difference that it's warm
year-round down there, too. Grandparents on one side went to the TX
valley back in the 30s and did the early citrus and truck farming down
there while the other side stuck it out thru the Dirty-30s here.
We've been thru two years of severe drought up until February we caught
a nice snow a rain that saved the winter wheat that had managed to hang
on. We then got another 2" in late March/early April and it looked
really good until about 10 days or so ago. We've been terribly hot for
this early (95F today for example) and it's really fading fast. They've
cut our chances w/ the next front over the weekend down to almost
nothing and if so another week w/o good rain and it'll be done. :(
Yeah... I hate those damn things. They take a new calf about once year.
Since you don't know for sure when a cow's going to drop, sometimes it
happens at night.
They're all over this part of Florida.
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