I believe you need a program called "rawrite" which is a PC program that writes raw binary data to a floppy without trying making it PC formatted. This should create a useable mac-formatted system disk that will boot up your old machine. (You might want to troll around the linux boards - rawrite was usually used for creating Linux-formatted bootdisks, back in the day before everyone had CD-R drives).
I predict you'll boot it, realize how brutally slow it is, squint at the tiny screen, and wonder why you went through the trouble!. Good luck with the macquarium, it sounds like a cool project!
I know about rawrite - I'm a (sometimes) Linux user since release 0.97 :-).
But according to what I could find out, the PC disk controller is physically incapable of writing in the 400K or 800K Apple/Macintosh format. IIRC, it was something about the error correction method.
But, as I mentioned in another post, several folks from this group have stepped up to help, so I'll have it up and running soon.
At my age, I even squint at BIG screens :-).
But it'll be neat to have a running version of the first consumer-level GUI.
BTW, back in the '60s or '70s, I went to a talk by a software designer who'd just finished a graphics system for the navy (definitely NOT consumer level) that showed all the ships on a world map. IIRC, it could be queried by voice, or at least by typing in a question in normal English syntax. Anyway, he said the biggest problem was making it simple enough for an admiral to use and not so simple the admirals were insulted :-).
There have probably been hundreds, if not thousands of lawsuits against Microsoft. Do you have a point?
Given a more capitalist legal system, Microsoft probably wouldn't exist.
They sold something they didn't own. How about that? Maybe you think all the other lawsuits against Microsoft were without merit, but many very conservative judges disagree.
You might want to check th definition of marketing out.
According to what law in particular, and why has no one Microsoft down if this is true?
What I found extremely funny about this whole thing was when Netscape was whining about IE being included in the OS package when Netscape was also free? I always thought that what was good for the goose was also good for the gander. I recall Quicken, Netscape, and AOL all being free.
Well, for what it is worth, my take on it is that Apple was a company of hardware and software geeks who were focused on making the coolest systems and software. They were pretty clueless when it came to the business world. M$ has always been a marketing giant. I have to say that I DO admire Gate's ability to build up a frenzy of excitement over his product, and get folks to buy it. He might not be that great a geek, but, he can sell snow to an Eskimo. So...you put an apple system and a PC next to each other... The apple had a lot of strengths (great graphics support from day one, ease of use, shallow learning curve) but cost $3000 or so. The PC was really cheap, and, did most things "well enough". Americans will, more often than not, go with cheap over quality, which gives the PC an advantage. Also, of course, there was the flood of PCS on the market. It was, and still is, kind of a challenge to find a place that sells Apple hardware and Software. However, it is hard to walk more than a block without passing a clone shop or some other source of PC stuff. Market penetration, adequate value, aggressive marketing all work together to take over 85% of the market.
Look at the roll-out of Windows 98. That was so hyped and pushed that it had folks who did not even OWN a computer asking me if they should buy a copy. Now THAT is marketing. Of course, as the judge said...M$ may have gained its monopoly legally, through aggressive marketing, but, they used that power to illegally maintain that monopoly...and by definition, a monopoly makes it very hard for competition to grow. It is a tough world out there. Regards Dave Mundt
I see. So they successfully defend themselves against attacks by litigation and that makes them bad guys. That makes perfect sense if you believe that the way to success is to use the legal system to destroy your competition. Is that what you believe?
What did they sell that they didn't own?
You can find "many conservative judges" that disagree with just about anything for certain values of "conservative". But that is beside the point. Microsoft in general does not try to litigate their competition to death.
Nope. Doesn't work. I don't recall what was different about the Mac hardware but there was something--the only way you could write a Mac-formatted disk on a PC was to use a Central Point Software Deluxe Option Board which provided the necessary hardware.
Some people collect old machines for reasons having nothing to do with current utility. I suspect that 20 years from now that machine's going to be worth a lot more working than it will as an aquarium.
OK, one, and I guess if we count Zenith that makes two. But both were successful businesses before personal computers, neither abandoned their other markets to pursue computers, and both have gotten out of computer manufacturing--Radio Shack is a DECPaquard outlet but doesn't make or sell their own anymore, while Zenith went back to televisions. Are any of the myriad companies that sprang up to manufacture CP/M machines still around?
And if there's anybody to blame it's Digital Research--if CP/M-86 had been delivered on time then Seattle DOS would never have been written and Microsoft wouldn't have had a product to sell to IBM.
Hum...depends on what you call "new". It has been about a year now that if I wanted a floppy drive on the systems I have built that I have to specifically request it. The days when 1.4 meg was big enough for almost anything are long gone. While it is still possible to put some documents and such on a single floppy, so many of them bloat out to several meg so quickly, it is not even funny. As an example...I ran into a 2 page newsletter (front and back of ONE sheet of paper) that was in Publisher format (ok...ok...I KNOW it is M$ and therefore by definition bloated). The files for the various issues ran from a small size of over
5 meg up to 15 meg. Now, while they did have a bunch of images, that seemed a bit big to me. When I converted them to PDF format, they DID shrink down to under a meg, in most cases... but that still would leave one newsletter per floppy only. With the massive price drop in CDRW drives and media, it only makes sense these days to drop the floppy and go with CD. Zip drives used to be useful too, but, again...limited to
250 meg (a great improvement, but still tending to fill up quickly). Regards Dave Mundt
Go ahead and keep your "so" conclusion. MS has done their share of litigating. They have also lost many, many lawsuits.
I would say that that is part of what MS believes. I believe that a legal system should be there as a neutral arbiter of justice, not the system in place now.
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Well, I think you will find many who would disagree with them and their panoply of predatory practices. They have availed themselves of the legal system whenever it suited their purposes.
Judges, many of them conservative, have found merit in many, many lawsuits against MS. There wouldn't have been those lawsuits if MS had not engaged in those activities.
Well now, that's not true. Since I bought my Mac 2 years ago, I've not once been able to honestly complain that a crash has taken any of my data with it - in fact, haven't been able to make it crash at all, so I think that's two things.
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