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On Mar 13, 10:26 am, "John Grossbohlin"
In this case there clearly are red flags that there may be a problem and the
situation should be avoided. That isn't always the case... There has always
been and will continue to be risk associated with "private transactions." As
such, a risk assessment should be a prerequisite to meeting someone to
complete any such transaction.
I've had enough suspect responses to CL ads over the years to be wary...
I've also had contact with literally hundreds of felons over the years and
know that identifying an individual's true intent is not a clear cut
endeavor. Having company in the form of other people and/or defensive arms
is not an issue of wanting to play cowboy or Dirty Harry... it's an issue of
self preservation if things go bad despite your best efforts. Common sense
only gets you so far sometimes.
I know people who will not try to defend themselves... one woman whom
suffered two forcible rapes accepts the fact that she freezes and a gun
would be useless to her. I know other rape victims whom had no means to
protect themselves but wish they did at the time--in addition to the rapes
they suffered beatings and in one case a beating and pregnancy. I knew
people who are now dead as things went bad when they made mistakes or
otherwise were not prepared. One was an elementary school teacher neighbor
in her own home... she investigated a noise in her attached garage and was
shot by an intruder. Another was in the wrong place at the wrong time on the
street and became a kidnap/robbery/murder victim... neither stranger murder
was ever solved.
How self preservation is undertaken is up to the individual... After having
bad experiences some, such as the double rape victim, use the avoidance
method and stay home with the doors locked. Others plan for worst case
scenarios and pray they never need to defend themselves. Others are
In the case of this CL saw ad... I'd pass as it doesn't pass the risk snif
test. In other cases flakey people and/or non-experts sell things and they
are relatively clueless about what they have (estates and spouses are good
for that). Some sellers are equally worried about being robbed and will not
meet at their homes. In these kinds of cases seemingly odd behaviors may be
harmless but you never really know until the transaction is over... In
general you need to make your best judgment, hope for the best, and be
prepared if it goes bad.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Yep, sometimes the best weapon one has is the good sense to avoid
a bad situation. Not that I always take my own advise.
In the years that I raised and sold dogs, I was always amazed at the
amount of people that would send a check upfront with no real
guarantee of anything, other than my word that they would get their
puppy. Only once in ten years did anyone ask for a reference.
I never purchased dogs that way, when I needed new blood lines,
I would show up in person to see the dog and hand over the cash,
sometimes as far away as Indiana.
We lived north of there, near 86th and Michigan Road. The fact that he
wanted to meet in that area would be more than enough to drop that saw.
In my opinion that area has been going down hill for some time, and
for us is definitely a pass through area where you do not stop.
What difference could that make? I don't even bother with ads without
phone numbers anymore. Actually, I don't even bother much with
Cincinnati is flake/scammer/spammer/dealers posing as owners city, and
there's no way Craigslist could possibly police all the nitwits unless
they start charging.
That's funny, because I don't give my phone number out to anyone on
craigslist, nor do I call anyone. If a person is unable to compose a
proper message to communicate with me, they just aren't worth my time.
Even worse are the texting idiots, who are unable to compose any
response other than "TEXT ME DUDE 541-555-1234". Those idiots don't
even deserve a response.
I have a throw-away prepay cell phone that I activated on the PagePlus
Cellular MVNO network for craigslist and similar contact. I bought the
phone for $15 on Ebay and PagePlus's $10 Standard Plan offers 100
minutes good for 120 days. You need to refill before the minutes expire
and unused ones roll over to the next 120 day period. For $2.50 a month,
you don't have to give out your real numbers.
I make cell phone number trading mandatory at the point a meet-up time
and meeting is established. That way, if he's late, you can call him--
or he can call you if he's running late.
The second amendment wasn't written so we could go hunting. It was
written so we could shoot at the government if it was ever taken over by
If I was engaged in a business that relied on using Craigslist I would
probably do something like this, but I am not. So for me, filtering out
the illiterate and/or impatient individuals from my interactions keeps
my Craigslist experience a positive one.
Look into Google Voice. Set up a phone number in ANY area code you wish
(including your own<g>) and it will act as a filter. Phone messages are
recorded, transcribed and shipped to you anonymously. You can also
listen in on the call being left and pick up if you wish.
I use it almost exclusively for Craigslist dealing. It's free.
Craigslist if full of idiots who have no concept of basic human
interaction and protocol. In a situation like the one you presented, I
just write it off as an idiot, and cease wasting my time.
Are they idiots or scammers? I don't know, and I don't care, it just
isn't worth my time to find out.
As an aside, I recently asked a few laptop sellers on craigslist some
questions. A lot of them don't include the model number, and when you
ask them for this information, it does like this:
Me: What model of laptop is this?
Seller: It is a Dell Latitude
This is with a laptop that is already described as being a Dell
Latitude, and it goes on and on like this.
The bottom line is that unless it is an item worth dealing with an idiot
over, cut your losses and move on; life is too short.
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