Simple cad/design software?

May 23, 2009 52 Replies

I was off the wreck for a while and I came across this thread.

In case anyone is looking for something more, Carrara 6.2 Pro, and Hex v? can be gotten for about $20 at

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(but their web site is down today, so I can't post a link to the exact product). The two are included on the CD ROM of a book they are selling for $20.

Carrara is a 3d animation program used to make photo-realistic or cartoon animations, or just pretty pictures. But it also includes a vertex modeller which is more than sufficient for doing CAD design. The only issue is that there is a quite steep learning curve to it. I personally model with Cararra, because I'm used to the interface, but from what I've heard, Hex is even better, and is likely easier to learn. (There's a learning curve to both of course). Here's some preliminary designs of a table I designed with Carrara (it was REALLY helpful for this project -- for planning the length and dimentions of the legs, slides etc. My first few models ended up having pieces colide with each other when the table folded/unfolded, but after a few adjustments I got a working model and I was able to take my measurements directly from the program).

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My final table design is actually a bit different than the picture -- I reduced it to having a single gear, and reduced the number of pieces significantly. I also got VectorStyle Plug in since then, and can publish much nicer diagrams, but I'm at work, and my files are at home, so I can't post anything except what's already on the web.

John

Well, it wasn't _your_ decision, so kiss my ass.

A bit testy tonight, I see.

Lew

Yeah, with well over five hundred cabinets under your belt you tend to get that way with the smug who "can't imagine doing it any other way", yet have no clue as to why it was necessary to do it differently then they would given the circumstances.

I build entire kitchens at a time, therefore I set up to produce parts for 20 to 40 cabinets and their components ... you can't always do that the same way that you can when you have the luxury and time to do a one-off.

That said, I do hereby apologize for my "testiness".

Geeeez. The can't imagine doing it any other way had to do with using pocket holes and biscuits, not the rail dispute. You do really nice work and didn't mean to piss you off. I'm German, so I see things a little differently then most, thanks to my father, God rest his perfectionist soul! Anyway Ive been to your website and like I said in the last 2 posts, you do really nice work.

Here's another I get inspiration from.

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(chuckle)

IMHO, your testiness was totally justified. You took the time to post several images to help someone figure out how to use SU. evodawg asked why you designed it the way you did. You again took the time to explain tat aspect of your design. evodawg made an asshole remark and you drilled him. I say, attaboy. ;-)

"Nucular Reaction" wrote

Swingman is like good booze. You expect a little bite. :-)

When I read Evo's second post, the one after the one where he was complementing you on your work and saying that he wasn't trying to criticize, I knew that it would be misconstrued. There should have been some space between the comment about the top rail of the face frame, and the pocket- hole-couldn't-imagine part.

Of course shop conditions influence design - it can be no other way. Same with experiences. If both of Evo's posts were combined into one, you probably wouldn't have taken issue. Next time he'll know to put the part about "I'm not criticizing" in the post where he's criticizing. ;)

I'll have to look up the etymology of the word testiness. I wonder if it's derived from testes. Maybe in olden days people would get miffed if they got kicked in the balls. Thankfully we've evolved.

R

Guess I could have used other words and constructed my sentence structure better. Think the last thing I said was he does beautiful work, which should have qualified the paragraph. But thanks for sticking up for me.

I'm just going to stop while I'm behind. Although I have built plenty of kitchens I didn't want to get alienated in this newsgroup like I have in Home repair. It's funny when I answered questions in there, it was answers I have run into myself and the solutions. They would jump on you if they didn't agree. For example the Refrig line freezing when water gets turned off. This has happened to me on at least 10 times where I turned the water off for a length of time, (shower builds, vanity builds, kitchen builds)and sure enough the customer would complain the water dispenser stopped working in the frig. After a few of those you kind of get it.

Hopefully it doesn't come down to that.

TESTY Word History: To the casual eye testy and heady seem to have no connection; a more thoughtful examination reveals that both words refer to the head. The head in heady is easy to see in both the form and meanings of the word. The earliest sense, first recorded in a work composed before 1382, is "headlong, headstrong," which is clearly a "head" sense; but so is the better-known current sense "apt to go to the head, intoxicating." To see the head in testy, we must look back to the Old French word testu, the source of our word. Testu is derived from the Old French word teste, "head" (Modern French t=A8=BAte). In English testy developed another sense, "aggressive, contentious," which passed into the sense we are familiar with, "irritable."

TESTES Word History: The resemblance between testimony, testify, testis, and testicle shows an etymological relationship, but linguists are not agreed on precisely how English testis came to have its current meaning. The Latin testis originally meant "witness," and etymologically means "third (person) standing by": the te- part comes from an older tri-, a combining form of the word for "three," and - stis is a noun derived from the Indo-European root st=A8=A1- meaning "stand." How this also came to refer to the body part(s) is disputed.

***An old theory has it that the Romans placed their right hands on their testicles and swore by them before giving testimony in court. *** Another theory says that the sense of testicle in Latin testis is due to a calque, or loan translation, from Greek. The Greek noun parastat=A8=A5s means "defender (in law), supporter" (para- "by, alongside," as in paramilitary and -stat=A8=A5s from histanai, "to stand"). In the dual number, used in many languages for naturally occurring, contrasting, or complementary pairs such as hands, eyes, and ears, parastat=A8=A5s had the technical medical sense "testicles," that is "two glands side by side." The Romans simply took this sense of parastat=A8=A5s and added it to testis, the Latin word for legal supporter, witness.

I swear by my balls I'm not testy. ;)

R

shop full of old Rockwell Delta tools from the 50's. I had little clue of how to use any of them, and began a search for how to books. At the local library, I ran into a million books from the 1920-40's, most looked like the same book with the same stuff, none were what I wanted... How to build a book shelf, how to build work bench and so on. I was starting to wonder if home workshops no longer existed.

Then, I stumbled over R.J.Chrstoforo's Complete Book of Power tools... PERFECT. This book got me started in a very good way. He shows how to use and set up all your tools, how to make jigs and fixtures to build most anything. He is my woodworking hero, and I would expect his son to be great.

Nice to see his name still floating around.

I'm still unclear as to where "testy" comes from, but at least I have a better idea where "don't get you're balls in an uproar" is rooted. :-)

He's also a contributor on Saw Mill Creek web forum

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