Yep. Have done that one before. And end up with a good reference book on
the shelf to consult when other problems crop up in the future.
Heck, I have even gone to the Borg, looked up the pertinent info, bought my
parts and went home and fixed the problem. Look for the books with LOTS of
illustrations. Illustrations is a lost art. Those simple drawings do a
much better job of communicating what you need to do than photos. Look for
lots of color illustrations. Read carefully. Then, to quote a number of
favorite teachers of mine, FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS!! Don't get creative,
don't wing it, just follow the damn instructions. Particularly when doing
End of rant.
It's not all about being "done".
Sometimes I even create threads to promote discussion of what I perceive
are things of general interest (like hammers). Even on simple things,
we do not have agreement (use of EMT or FMT for instance?).
Sometimes I even take photos or create SketchUp models to help make my
posts more interesting (and it's good practice for me).
You were the one who suggested you don't want to read how to cut a
dove-tail joint everyday. I'm playing right into your hand, no?
No, you're not ... a dovetail joint is not regulated by a code, nor is
it generally dangerous in the wrong hands.
You miss the point ... a book on electrical installation, and
particularly the DIY versions for reasons of liability, will have, more
often than not, been written by an expert in the field, edited by same,
and published with a fairly good guarantee of overall correctness.
Here you are mostly getting the noise of self-styled experts who have no
more qualifications in the matter than you do.
Which would you rather build your future on?
That's not to say that you can't get good advice here (Doug Miller (who
knows more about the various NEC's than any electrician I've ever paid
for), Lew Hodges, Mike Marlowe, to name just a few), but just trying to
read one of the threads attempting to answer your myriad of question,
which always seem to beget more questions than answers, and it is
apparent to an outside observer with a bit of knowledge on the subject,
that the wheat gets lost in the chaff/noise.
You're obviously too close to the forest to see the trees, or even
recognize a tree (analogy only) ... that's why I said what I said, and
why Lee did also.
For someone who was so upset about the way I spelled THHN, that's a
pretty long "run-on" sentence! : ) Actually, I thought about your
message as I was replying to you before dinner, during dinner, and after
dinner. I respect your thoughts, as I so those of others.
Then it occurred to me:
I could just bend one piece of EMT to run from the switchbox, up the
stud, and finish with a 90 degree bend coalescing with the ceiling,
attaching one these C-type EMT connectors to the end. This eliminates
the "middle" box in my earlier drawing.
Not too bad, huh? It somehow represents our collective wisdom.
BTW, there is a difference between reading and writing about playing
with gunpower and actually doing so. I don't come here everyday because
my life is so full of problems. Well, maybe that's not true, I'm not
sure. Ha. It is true that I really enjoy problem solving in a group
I think I agree with you. I think I'm going to take the box back. Thank
you for helping to give me the strength to change my mind. No doubt
others would do it a differently--and most of them would surely be
finished by now. On the positive side, consideration of this approach
was educational. If I am unable to thread the FMC and stay within the
code, in my circumstances, then I can come back to this approach.
The technicalities concern how much of the FMC is allow to be exposed
(4', I believe). I may have to do some new out of the box thinking.
Having done drywall now, and probably having another piece 19" wide
and 4' long, you could just cut out the piece over the wiring and run
the conduit to the box, then quickly replace the drywall, mud/sand and
prime/paint. Piece o' cake, duck soup.
This kind of work is what the HF multifunction tool excels at. Use the
half moon cutter butted against a piece of furring strip for straight
Here he goes again...
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson
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