Sorry about the this new post. Previous post was high jacked by too many a
Issue: 2" nails not (never) set below surface.
Answer: Bought a 2 gallon bucket of finish nails (various lengths) at a ga
rage sale ($5) some years back. Said nails got mixed in with my new "Porte
r Cable" brand nails. Look almost identical. On closer examination I find
the the 'no brand' nails are slightly fatter than the "Porter Cable". Did
not 'mike' the diameters, but, comparing clips, 12 "porter cable" nails ta
ke up the same amount of space as 9 of the 'no brand' nails. No wonder the
gun would not fire about one out of four times. Had to open the gun and m
anually push the nails ahead for the next shot.
Learned my lesson. Brand name fasteners only from now on.
FWIW , finish nails come in at least two different gauges, 15 and 16 gauge
being the most common. So be aware that you can also buy the wrong size
"name brand" and continue to have problems. My particular Senco angle
finish nailer uses 15 gauge nails, larger diameter than the 16 gauge.
My Senco gun has never had anything but Senco nails shot through it. I
have probably had two misfires since I have owned it. My Bostitch framer
has only had generic nails shot through it an I have never had a misfire
with it. Same goes for my Craftsman brad nailer, and HF stapler. Grex
pinner had an o-ring go bad and would misfiire but that was a simple at
home fix. Senco palm nailer, well anything goes. :-;
While most brand name nails work better than no name, buying the incorrect
size will cause more problems than using a no name brand..
I would not doubt that for a moment. The only reasonable possible
problem with a no name over a name brand in the same brand tool is the
no name not having the right specs for that particular gun. This is
especially true with nails that are attached to each other at an angle.
I might have complicated my response earlier. I completely take for
granted that folks will put the right nails in the right guns.
OTOH, there are a lot of folks in China making nails these days, and
the only way you will get nails or brads made with the quality control
needed to make the gun shoot consistently and reliably are the brand
named nails. The have real quality control and require a better
product for their name.
When I go get nails or brads at Texas Tool and Fastener (I think you
have those in Houston) one trip I will buy Spotnails brand. Then the
next trip, the only brand they have in the store in the fast moving
sizes is Senco. Sometimes it is Bostitch. Other times it is
Palode. I never know, but I only buy brand names and can shoot
several hundred through my guns (roofing guns, maybe a few thousand)
without a hitch.
The guns you buy are important too, as some are just more picky than
others. Top guns on my list these days are Bostitch and Hitachi in
their industrial line. I can shoot any brand (of the correct gauge!)
of nail that will fit in the guns.
On 2/16/2013 3:38 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Hey! We have had several Texas tool traders in Houston and for many
years. AAMOF that is where I bought my nails for the Bostich framer
when I lived in the other house, the store was a 5 minute walk away.
Who knows what brand but that store moved tons, pallet loads, of nails.
I never went into that store and did not see a dolly loaded down with
boxed nails going out the door. I truly believe that nails was 90% of
No doubt about the origin although IIRC Senco still claims American
built. I was often suspect at to who who was really building the guns
when PC and Milwaukee suddenly had a full line of nailers. Compressors
are like that.
I can shoot any brand (of the correct gauge!)
I think the lesson you're describing you learned isn't the right one,
though--the problem is likely not what brand the others were but that
they are 15 ga and your nailer needs/is made for 16 ga
IOW, in the right nailer, the others will also work almost certainly as
well as will other brands of the proper size/angle in yours.
A ratio of 12/9 seems large, though, altho given that you say you didn't
actually measure the shank it's possible the head spacing inflates the
actual shank dimension ratio.
Nail use the SWG (Standard Wire Gage) for which a small subset is
Ga dia (in)
15 ga is equivalent to a 4D standard finish nail, generally, altho I've
seen some recent imports that are smaller.
Actually the 16 gauge finish nail guns have been around a relative long
time, I had the choice of 15 or 16, 20+ years ago. Almost every brand
Some manufacturers consider 18 gauge to be finish nail size. Comparing
18 to 16 gauge the 12/9 ratio would be "about" right.
As for head spacing, all of the finish nails and brads that I have used
and or seen are glued next to each other, the heads in one dimension are
the same width of the nail. Typically only large headed nails, like
framing and or roofing nails, are spaced apart from each other.
I would think that he probably had some, more commonly referred to, 18
gauge brad nails mixed in the batch.
Yes; I'm well aware of that--I was relating back to a standard 4D finish
nail for comparison purposes for OP....
I thought about the 18ga brads as well, but that just seemed too big a
stretch to have not noticed a priori...I looked but never did see that
OP gave what the actual gun he has is for actual lookup.
AND... ;~) I mentioned that these style nails have heads in one
dimension equal to the width of the nail. That is not entirely true.
Take my gun for instance, duh! It has an angled magazine. The nails
are stair stepped at an angle and the heads hang over the nail on 3
sides. The 4th side is flush with the side of the nail so that they can
all be glued to each other.
Along with the fact that some angle nailers are different in their
"angle". I have an old 15 ga angle nailer that shoots one angle, and
my newer Bostitch that shoots nails glued at another. They will fit
in the magazine, and since there is only a >>5<< degree difference, I
didn't notice the first time I bought the wrong nails.
Evident when placed in the gun magazine, not so when in the box.
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